[1019] Market Wards Small Fix

[Point_Zero]

Well, this is a small addition that I think would be beneficial to the market wards. Sorry I couldnt find the proper tag. Last night I wanted to put something up in the wards. I did not want to under cut because that is a huge problem we are having atm. Being able to see all the items allows for a guaranteed undercut. What I am proposing though is that If you do decide to put the item up for the same amount as the person on the top of the list at least make it so you are guaranteed the spot at the Top. I think if people are fighting over just being at the top they might slow down in some cases with the monster under cuts.

Thank you!

EDIT: I did try going in with the same price as the person at the top of the list and for some reason I was pushed somewhere in the middle I believe, or maybe at the end of that price. I dont know I was not paying that much attention. All I know is that I was not first..

[Point_Zero]

I apologize for the Bump but I wanted to see if anyone else thinks this is a good idea before it gets off the first page.

[MarkH]

I presumed the order goes by Cheapest then Alphabetical order. Name your retainer Aaron or Acme or similar, and if your price is the same as anyone else, you'll be listed before their.

I don't think doing as you say will be a good idea, i prefer the way it work in FFXI where if you and another person list item for the same price, whoever listed first get sold first. A first in first out inventory management is superior to a last in first out one.

[Hopecord]

To be in the top of the list you should put a lower price which is good for consumers. however, I think if you put the same price, then the list will sort with the modified date. I guess

[Point_Zero]

To be in the top of the list you should put a lower price which is good for consumers. however, I think if you put the same price, then the list will sort with the modified date. I guess

Yeah but ultimately what people want is to be on the top of the list and they are undercutting very bad to get there. So why not give people a reason to set a decent price and not undercut?

[trinta]

Yeah but ultimately what people want is to be on the top of the list and they are undercutting very bad to get there. So why not give people a reason to set a decent price and not undercut?

I'm not sure they care about being at the top of the list. I think what they really want is for their stuff to sell, so they undercut to achieve that. That's why I undercut when I do it, anyway.

[Point_Zero]

Yeah but in theory if your at the top of the list with the same price why would you choose the second guy?

[trinta]

Exactly. That's why I undercut.

Edited for clarity: If I would automatically go to the top of the list by setting the same price as the lowest guy, I'd still undercut.

[Cutriss]

Yeah but in theory if your at the top of the list with the same price why would you choose the second guy?

Why should you be chosen over the second guy in the first place? He's been there longer than you.

In your system, people will be making trips to their retainers all the time just to "refresh" their prices in order to show up at the top of the list, increasing server activity and making the system more unstable.

The older style of first-to-sell-goes-first would be fairer and have less server impact.

[zoozoo]

I will always undercut. And I will undercut by a considerable margin, if i'm still making a profit. I don't need inventory sitting around in my retainer, so the quickest way to sell will always be undercut by a wide margin. It discourages others from undercutting me, when they see a gap between my price and the next lowest.

When the mats for a synth i'm grinding on are 1/3 of what the finished product sells for, i see no reason to maximize my profit. Especially if i'm going through a lot of synths. If something cost me 3-5k gil to make, and the lowest is selling for 15k, i'm going to undercut to 10-12k and sell/make as many as i can as fast as i can.

Undercutting is not a problem. What this thread is suggesting is similar to price fixing. "Let's all set our price high, and the first person to list it, will sell."