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  1. #41
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    NintenPyjak64's Avatar
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sol_Aureus View Post
    Whatever works and flows well for you personally. It sounds like your opener is fine, you hit the key points you need to (DoTs go up, 2x Fester during RS, Rouse/Spur). Swiftcast Shadow Flare is nice because when you cast Shadow Flare you can use another off GCD during its GCD. Contagion is a bit different than off GCD abilities since it's pet and you can command your pet without having to wait for any animations, so you can contagion whenever you'd like after your DoTs are up. If you're only casting Shadow Flare whenever contagion is up, I would reccomend trying to keep Shadow Flare up at all times since it's another DoT and can increase your damage.
    I'll try keeping that in mind. Now from your math earlier, does it matter at all if I choose to go with the old BiS? is the difference minimal like det/SS on WHM? or will my SMN suffer in Coil when I start bringing it to there?
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  2. #42
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    Shanoa Varhara
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Difference between old BiS and new BiS is very minimal. You can go with either and be completely fine.
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  3. #43
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikosho View Post
    Difference between old BiS and new BiS is very minimal. You can go with either and be completely fine.
    Glad to hear. Bought Myth hat AFTER I heard about the DET thing and didn't want to waste the Myth I spent, lol
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  4. #44
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Excalibur
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    As long as you hit 100% you can go with whatever you think looks best
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  5. #45
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    Lady Ofthelake
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    Famfrit
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    Leatherworker Lv 52
    What is your advice for multiple spread out targets that you have to kill quickly such as Ifrit's nails. The only criticism I get as summoner when I have to deal with these. I have tried several ways, but obviously am going about it the wrong way.
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  6. #46
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    Mila Allegretto
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    Goblin
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Good information to atleast train aspiring new summoners on what to expect instead of the doom gloom topics we normally see.
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  7. #47
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    Sen Terrechant
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyofthelake View Post
    What is your advice for multiple spread out targets that you have to kill quickly such as Ifrit's nails. The only criticism I get as summoner when I have to deal with these. I have tried several ways, but obviously am going about it the wrong way.
    DoT, DoT, DoT.

    Energy Drain if you need it to continue, then DoT some more.
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  8. #48
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    Twintania
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Why do I feel Bahamut is a waste of time? I seem to be able to do much more damage sticking to my usual spells and Egi's than messing around summoning Bahamut. I mean you waste a whole load of fighting time going through the summoning animation. I really don't understand of what benefit Bahamut has.
    Do most of you summoners skip him?
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    Lilyth Chan
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarryme View Post
    Why do I feel Bahamut is a waste of time? I seem to be able to do much more damage sticking to my usual spells and Egi's than messing around summoning Bahamut. I mean you waste a whole load of fighting time going through the summoning animation. I really don't understand of what benefit Bahamut has.
    Do most of you summoners skip him?
    Holy Necromancy, Batman.

    Also no. No Summoner in their right mind would "skip" Bahamut. As a matter of fact, Bahamut's phase does the exact same damage as Phoenix's if you summon it properly (Deathflare + 4 RuinIVs).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyth View Post
    Holy Necromancy, Batman.

    Also no. No Summoner in their right mind would "skip" Bahamut. As a matter of fact, Bahamut's phase does the exact same damage as Phoenix's if you summon it properly (Deathflare + 4 RuinIVs).
    I will believe it when I see it.
    It's to big. I summon that elephant and it takes up the whole screen. I can't see what I'm shooting.
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