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    Sol_Aureus's Avatar
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    Sol Rynn
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by dron13 View Post
    Forgot one question:

    Why do you think that dots must be always up?

    I mean that if the last tick will be at last second, then isn't it better to reapply dot after that tick? If you lose ~0.5ms instead of one more tick, it will be better, no?
    DoTs must always be up because if they're not you risk missing a tic of the DoT because of how the mechanics behind DoT tics work. If you can flawlessly reapply all your DoTs the second they fall off, then yes, that is the most efficient use of MP. However, realistically that will almost never happen. You'll have to move to dodge a move or be attacking an add or passing rot or something, there are practically no fights that you can just stand there and throw out the ideal rotation. That's why you want to err on the side of caution and clip your DoTs early if you think you're DoTs are going to fall off at a bad time, because you can lose a lot of damage if your DoTs aren't all ticking whenever possible.
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    Shanoa Varhara
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Difference between old BiS and new BiS is very minimal. You can go with either and be completely fine.
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikosho View Post
    Difference between old BiS and new BiS is very minimal. You can go with either and be completely fine.
    Glad to hear. Bought Myth hat AFTER I heard about the DET thing and didn't want to waste the Myth I spent, lol
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    As long as you hit 100% you can go with whatever you think looks best
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    Lady Ofthelake
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    Famfrit
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    Leatherworker Lv 52
    What is your advice for multiple spread out targets that you have to kill quickly such as Ifrit's nails. The only criticism I get as summoner when I have to deal with these. I have tried several ways, but obviously am going about it the wrong way.
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    Sen Terrechant
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyofthelake View Post
    What is your advice for multiple spread out targets that you have to kill quickly such as Ifrit's nails. The only criticism I get as summoner when I have to deal with these. I have tried several ways, but obviously am going about it the wrong way.
    DoT, DoT, DoT.

    Energy Drain if you need it to continue, then DoT some more.
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    Mila Allegretto
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    Goblin
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Good information to atleast train aspiring new summoners on what to expect instead of the doom gloom topics we normally see.
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Why do I feel Bahamut is a waste of time? I seem to be able to do much more damage sticking to my usual spells and Egi's than messing around summoning Bahamut. I mean you waste a whole load of fighting time going through the summoning animation. I really don't understand of what benefit Bahamut has.
    Do most of you summoners skip him?
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    Lilyth Chan
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tarryme View Post
    Why do I feel Bahamut is a waste of time? I seem to be able to do much more damage sticking to my usual spells and Egi's than messing around summoning Bahamut. I mean you waste a whole load of fighting time going through the summoning animation. I really don't understand of what benefit Bahamut has.
    Do most of you summoners skip him?
    Holy Necromancy, Batman.

    Also no. No Summoner in their right mind would "skip" Bahamut. As a matter of fact, Bahamut's phase does the exact same damage as Phoenix's if you summon it properly (Deathflare + 4 RuinIVs).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyth View Post
    Holy Necromancy, Batman.

    Also no. No Summoner in their right mind would "skip" Bahamut. As a matter of fact, Bahamut's phase does the exact same damage as Phoenix's if you summon it properly (Deathflare + 4 RuinIVs).
    I will believe it when I see it.
    It's to big. I summon that elephant and it takes up the whole screen. I can't see what I'm shooting.
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