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    Magis's Avatar
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    Magis Luagis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    Maybe in a PvP focused game. PvE games are built for people to work together, not against each other. The days of EQ and FFXI are done. Models like WoW and FFXIV are what people want out of a mainstream MMO. I'm sure there's other niche titles out there or PvP games if you want to compete against other people.

    Your posts recently just seethe negativity. Why are you still playing this game again?
    Maybe I was out of the loop, but even WoW had competition... in PVP (Arena, BGs) and PVE (world firsts, and world boss kills when they were around, and the general quest to have the coolest and rarest gear from everyone else). Also, please... FFXI was the anti-thesis of "working against each other". You were forced to "work together", or you would not pass level 10 and be stuck in Ronfaure/Gustaberg/Sarutabaruta.
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    Jo Maru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    Maybe in a PvP focused game. PvE games are built for people to work together, not against each other. The days of EQ and FFXI are done. Models like WoW and FFXIV are what people want out of a mainstream MMO. I'm sure there's other niche titles out there or PvP games if you want to compete against other people.

    Your posts recently just seethe negativity. Why are you still playing this game again?
    What game are you playing, that has everyone holding each others hand and helping them through the game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davionx View Post
    Endgame in open world could lead to harassment and competition so very unlikely in this game or really any new mmo
    How is open world content any different from instanced when it comes to harassment?

    We got parties that vote kick someone to get drop for their members, people that kick if you're learning or not as good, trolls that enter instances to wipe party purposely, etc. Keep lying to yourself that open world would somehow be worse or as bad as instance for that matter.
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    Ferth Fontaine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davionx View Post
    Endgame in open world could lead to harassment and competition so very unlikely in this game or really any new mmo
    Cause there is no harassment going on in the game right now.
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    Cara Verant
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    Ultros
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    I don't see where any of this is open-world. This sounds exactly like CT, where Tier 1 is the unlock quests leading up to the actual dungeon. I mean, FATEs are actual open-world content, but putting a lockout on them (let alone one as short as 15 SECONDS) is no better than/exactly what happens in a dungeon.

    Now, party-based Levequests like this would be a different matter. It's got your lockout, enemies appear in the open-world (as good as it's gonna get without just being a FATE), certain leves could be linked between parties, difficulty-scaling based on what the party/alliance thinks they can handle. The only thing missing would be the chained tiers, which can be programmed if it's planned for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Cain View Post
    I don't see where any of this is open-world. This sounds exactly like CT, where Tier 1 is the unlock quests leading up to the actual dungeon
    Now, party-based Levequests like this would be a different matter. It's got your lockout, enemies appear in the open-world (as good as it's gonna get without just being a FATE), certain leves could be linked between parties, difficulty-scaling based on what the party/alliance thinks they can handle. The only thing missing would be the chained tiers, which can be programmed if it's planned for.
    I was thinking about the times when you have 12 people who are friends and want to play the same content but right now you can take 8 members for a guaranteed party and have the other 4 queue up and hope they get same instance. or those 12 people go and fight some challenging open world content in an endgame specific zone.

    If we could form our own alliances in game, party/alliance based guildleves would work perfectly.
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    Yes Please. Force Pop NM/HNMs are great. As for timed Pops those would work if they weren't 48-72hrs >< on some. Great idea though cause we really need some opn world content.

    FFXI had a Tier system with ZNMs you would kill X nm to unlock the next set and kill X nm for the next and then you would get a mega boss PW (crazy). Was a 5 Tier NM system with dozens of Mobs that would all lead to the final.
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    Synaptic Striker
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    This game needs a booster shot of Open world Content and NMS, make the pop random as hell and area big as hell so no one camps it.
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    Goodbye, Final Fantasy...

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    Secare Miura
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    What does HM/NHM/ZNM mean? I'm assuming it's an FF thing because I only see it here.
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    Meredy Aifread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumiin View Post
    What does HM/NHM/ZNM mean? I'm assuming it's an FF thing because I only see it here.
    Notorious Monster, Hard Notorious Monster, ZNM....have no clue actually
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