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[gadenp]

All the different aspects of DF and PF and all this exploits are bit by bit making FF14 a "Queue to Wait, Wait to Queue" game.

Making FF14 slowly get more and more boring and annoying. Something has to change. Hope SE realises that and actually does something.

Here is to hope. Cheers

[MurakumoMillennium]

THE SOLUTION: TAKE AWAY JOIN IN PROGRESS, MAKE ALL QUEUES GO INTO EITHER, NO MORE CONFIRM, IF YOU QUEUE FOR IT, YOU'RE GOING IN, NO CANCELING. MAKE DAMN SURE YOU WANT IN BEFORE YOU QUEUE.

THE VOTE KICKS NEED TO BE REMOVED, ITS HIGHLY ABUSED I GOT KICKED FOR NOT KICKING, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

No. No no no. No no. No.

[HorrorStory]

Well, it shows they're willing to address the issue of queue fishers. This is a subpar fix for a bad situation, but hopefully it means they're taking a measured look at this problem & plan to push back against it with other adjustments in the near future. Something like this should be in place for normal DF instances too. A flat 15 minute penalty for withdrawing sounds good, imo. There should also be a penalty for being dismissed from a group.

[Limecat]

THE SOLUTION: TAKE AWAY JOIN IN PROGRESS, MAKE ALL QUEUES GO INTO EITHER, NO MORE CONFIRM, IF YOU QUEUE FOR IT, YOU'RE GOING IN, NO CANCELING. MAKE DAMN SURE YOU WANT IN BEFORE YOU QUEUE.

THE VOTE KICKS NEED TO BE REMOVED, ITS HIGHLY ABUSED I GOT KICKED FOR NOT KICKING, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

LOUD NOISES!!!!11!!shift+1!

Call me crazy, but based on your post I can think of another reason or two they may have wanted to boot you.

[Pikachew]

THE SOLUTION: TAKE AWAY JOIN IN PROGRESS, MAKE ALL QUEUES GO INTO EITHER, NO MORE CONFIRM, IF YOU QUEUE FOR IT, YOU'RE GOING IN, NO CANCELING. MAKE DAMN SURE YOU WANT IN BEFORE YOU QUEUE.

THE VOTE KICKS NEED TO BE REMOVED, ITS HIGHLY ABUSED I GOT KICKED FOR NOT KICKING, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

So you got kicked by the guy you were trying to protect? Sounds like you're a bad judge of character.

[viion]

Hello all,

As you know, when joining in progress for the Crystal Tower, the system displays the progress of the raid when attempting to join runs in progress. For example, "Progress: 1/4".

However, this will be adjusted for the Crystal Tower to always show the progress as 0/1 in patch 2.15.

How does this fix anything? I start a party and sign up, I don't click Join in progress. Someone else clicks join in progress, and they spam spam spam until they get "Join in progress 0/1". they dont care what boss its on, they just want one in progress. And we have to suffer through that.

It will help a bit, but not much, i find it to be a bandaid at most.

With this patch, i will just click "Join in progress" and withdraw 24/7 until I see "Join in progress 0/1", i dont care what boss its on, i just want one in progress as its likely to be further than a fresh run. And those who want a fresh run will suffer through me spamming withdraw.

Does not fix the issue, completely stupid patch.

[Tiraelina]

Hello all,

As you know, when joining in progress for the Crystal Tower, the system displays the progress of the raid when attempting to join runs in progress. For example, "Progress: 1/4".

However, this will be adjusted for the Crystal Tower to always show the progress as 0/1 in patch 2.15.

This isn't really going to fix much without hiding it entirely, not just for CT either.

There's a reason you don't see this information in other MMO's.

[Hazanko]

Hello all,

As you know, when joining in progress for the Crystal Tower, the system displays the progress of the raid when attempting to join runs in progress. For example, "Progress: 1/4".

However, this will be adjusted for the Crystal Tower to always show the progress as 0/1 in patch 2.15.

Seriously now we have to join a ""crappy" raid and not know where/how far along we are? How is exactly fair to those who do takes the queue when it's something like 2/4... Well now I'll totally avoid CT, since I'm full 90 item level and have no need or point in stepping foot in that horrid place >.> Good Job SE on screwing up some of the latest content you came out with.... >.>

Edit: Exactly how do I not belong there? Like do I not have alt classes/jobs to gear up? What about philo/myth tomes? I for one am sick of dungeons/ hm dungeons when it's the same thing over and over, Speed runs are great but they to can lead to some pretty bad times. Just like groups in CT, but for you to sit there and claim I shouldn't/don't belong in CT is just you being rude/dick-ish. You're saying I can't enjoy the content that I too pay for.

[Mortechai]

Seriously now we have to join a ""crappy" raid and not know where/how far along we are? How is exactly fair to those who do takes the queue when it's something like 2/4... Well now I'll totally avoid CT, since I'm full 90 item level and have no need or point in stepping foot in that horrid place >.> Good Job SE on screwing up some of the latest content you came out with.... >.>

You have no reason to be in there in the first place. Sorry, but trying to play the system to allow you to farm your myth tomes faster is not a valid excuse to screw 23 other people over who have to sit there and wait while you decide whether you want to go in or not. HM dungeons are the same myth tomes and can be run twice as fast as CT. Seriously, get over yourself.

[Mykll]

Seriously now we have to join a ""crappy" raid and not know where/how far along we are? How is exactly fair to those who do takes the queue when it's something like 2/4... Well now I'll totally avoid CT, since I'm full 90 item level and have no need or point in stepping foot in that horrid place >.> Good Job SE on screwing up some of the latest content you came out with.... >.>

How do you know that 2/4 is not a crappy raid? What if they wiped on boss 3 a number of times? What if they got that far and took so much time getting there, there is no way they would be able to finish anyway? Seeing 0/4, 1/4, 2/4, 3/4, or starting from fresh, in DF, does not guarantee you a good or bad raid period.

If you are fully ilvl 90 and have no need or point to step in there, then what are you complaining about? This doesn't affect you at all right?