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    Splorch's Avatar
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    Splorchess Tictac
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Raestloz View Post
    "say you need to heal both the DPS and the tank, you can put Regen on both and your heals will be supplemented on both"
    I'm taking your example:
    To put regen on both will require to you spend 2 GCD's and ~400 mana. If both the tank and the DPS are in dire need of life saving, regen isn't the tool to begin with and I don't think that is what you mean. If the dps needs say a Cure I size heal and the tank needs a cure I sized heal you can just use cure I on tank, embrace on dps and solve both problems at once for 1/3 the price. If they both need a cure II sized heal, I wouldn't use regen, supplement or no. The MT is getting Cure II, the dps is getting Embrace + a cure I if he absolutely needs it for the phase, and then its carry on. If more than 3 people need healing they're getting either medica I/II or cure III depending on the situation. The only time I can even think of pre-regen on a dps is P6 rook, at which point he better be using feather foot and keen flurry because I'm dealing with double dreadnaughts and he's shit out of luck after that.

    While you can supplement healing on 2 separate people at the same time with regen embrace is nearly(not quite) x2 as strong(its around 1.8x) and if someone doesn't need the regen at that time you can't move it to another player that needs it to save mana. You have to decide does this other person need a cure I, II, or should I aoe and take the mana hit. Embrace's power comes from the fact that once you cast it on someone, its not attached to someone who might not need it fully, costs nothing, and it doesn't effect your normal rotation. Regardless this is a pointless argument. WHM should never get a fairy/pet/"embrace bot" as I put it because the last thing this game needs is for the classes to become one and the same. This started simply because I compared the 2 because they are both supplemental heals on 3 second recasts. Embrace is ~1.8x as effective per 3 second cast where as regen can be placed on 2 people at the same time. If you're using more than 2 regens at a time you should have just used something like medica II as you're using more mana than what that would have cost you.
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    Last edited by Splorch; 01-20-2014 at 03:14 PM.

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    Marcusow86's Avatar
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    Natsu Sousuke
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Splorch View Post
    If you're using more than 2 regens at a time you should have just used something like medica II as you're using more mana than what that would have cost you.
    This is what defines a GOOD whm and an average ones. You whine about getting too much aggro and then you give this statement.

    Have you played a SCH in end game yet? I suggest you play one before stating a fact, cause what i see here is SCH better, SCH better, WHM might be better but if you see it this way SCH is better BS.

    SCH and pet can heal a diff target, rouse + illum WD, lustrate, adlo, stoneskin + sacred soil. EVERYONE talks as tho those skills magically pop out of their skill bar onto the field instantly. Do you know how much button a SCH need to press to get all these out? Sometimes, you just only have enough time to do a few and that is not enough to cover every healing aspect in the game. Therefore, before theory crafting everything, go play them out in end game and tell me just how fast your SCH can take care of MT healing and also AOE heal.
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    Eriane's Avatar
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    Ire Valkyr
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcusow86 View Post
    SCH and pet can heal a diff target, rouse + illum WD, lustrate, adlo, stoneskin + sacred soil. EVERYONE talks as tho those skills magically pop out of their skill bar onto the field instantly. Do you know how much button a SCH need to press to get all these out? Sometimes, you just only have enough time to do a few and that is not enough to cover every healing aspect in the game. Therefore, before theory crafting everything, go play them out in end game and tell me just how fast your SCH can take care of MT healing and also AOE heal.
    Lol first of all, are you implying that Sch is hard to play? How is pressing one or two buttons or a macro while waiting for gcd's hard?

    Either way, i have no idea what you are saying. Are you actually saying it is a bad thing that you have the options to do multiple things vs. doing EVERYTHING one gcd at a time?
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