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    Syrus_Draco's Avatar
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    Syrus Hyena
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 100

    Question for DRG on Skill Speed

    Hello Everyone

    I haven't been keeping up with the forums for awhile as far as DRG goes. Recently a fellow drg in my FC informed me that Skill Speed got a buff in 2.1 Currently my build is STR > Determination > Crit. With this build I would do consistent damage across the board which I liked.

    So my big question is, what makes Skill Speed now a solid build? Previously you needed a lot of skill speed to make it viable, and in doing so you would be sacrificing determination and crit, which lowered damage. I do understand that DRG the slowest hitting class, so on paper skill speed sounds like something you want, but I didn't find a difference personally.

    I want to know what changes did SE do to skill speed(i.e. 20% potency buff) I have looked around the Rotation Reborn but didn't find a solid answer to change my build, mostly posts that said "this is the new BiS" without giving reason as to why. I'm looking for the reasons so that I may understand and work on being a better DPS
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    Warrlordd's Avatar
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    Genji Xiii
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 90
    I'm not sure i can answer the exact changes, all i can tell you is that either way is viable and workable. I recently did a parse w/ another FC DRG of mine, 6 minutes long. He is Crit/DET and i was SS... he came out about 10dps higher, cuz i forgot my jumps O.o so, i'm not sure that by changing you will find it worthwhile or even a noticeable change in dps.
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    Empressia's Avatar
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    Carnage Incarnate
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    Tonberry
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    Lancer Lv 50
    well more skill speed means u have time to add fracture without screwing ur rotations debuff , and every high alpha sustained damage DPS class in every MMO do not benefit much from lower miniscule almost useless GCD aka skill speed compared to the usual atk power + crit
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    Jet Brooks
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    Malboro
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    Lancer Lv 50
    You're doing it right. STR > DTR > CRT > SS

    Here's stat weights for all physical DPS

    DRG thanks to EasyModeX
    WD 8.488
    STR 1.000
    DTR 0.323
    CRT 0.184
    SS 0.152

    MNK thanks to EasyModeX
    WD 8.321
    STR 1
    DTR 0.329
    CRT 0.163
    SS 0.157

    BRD thanks to EasyModeX
    WD 8.683
    DEX 1.000
    DTR 0.314
    CRT 0.269
    SS 0.126
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    Gunboat Diplomat
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    Odin
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    Archer Lv 90
    I really don´t see how stat weights can be linear.
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    Jet Brooks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulza View Post
    I really don´t see how stat weights can be linear.
    DTR increases the other stats, as well as damage in general, it's hard to beat. Apparently you need a (currently impossibly) large amount of DTR before CRT starts passing it up in usefulness.

    DPS calculators and parses have shown that skill speed just isn't as beneficial to DPS as the other stats.
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    Player Rochetm's Avatar
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    Kicking Wolf
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    There are two flaws with SS. One is that it does nothing for AA while other melee stats do. THe other is its a good way to drain TP. Haven't heard many Drgs complain about it but Mnks really have to watch tp usage.
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    Kadas Aeron
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 50
    Skill Speed is "garbage", that's why it's almost everywhere now
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    Tonberry
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    hard cap of skill speed is reducing 2.5s gcd to 2.25s gcd which is a not so funny joke
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    Syrus Hyena
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Thanks for the stat weights Jet.

    In looking at the Rotation Reborn's BiS, I have noticed they changed several of the old BiS from 2.0. The changes I saw were exchanging determination and crit for skill speed. While these stat weights show that determination and crit are more significant than skill speed, what is the reasoning behind these changes to BiS?
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