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Thread: Item Duping???

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    Bots I hate and understand but people complaining that others are undercutting them... I have no pity for you. Everything in the game is obtainable for free if you invest the time to do so. The question is, how much time does a gil equate to?

    Just because you spent money to buy X mats to make Y to sell for Z, and someone else went out and farmed X to make Y and sold for Z - 50% doesn't mean they are "breaking the market", it means they found a way to be more profitable with slightly more effort. If I can make 100% profit at 50% of the cost an item sells for and sell it faster vs making 20% profit (which may still be less than the farming person made by taking the time to do so), I'll take the larger profit option everytime.

    Don't get me wrong, I tend to buy mats and items as I am not a huge fan of crafting or gathering but those who are are doing it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanabira View Post
    thats what i meant.. why sell a stack of 99 because no one is going to buy it
    I guess if someone was SUPER serious about penta-melding something, but why waste all that materia?
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    There's some small profit in buying bulk materia III's. If you're a 50 crafter, relic-required i55 items sell pretty good with needed materia already affixed.

    I bought a small stack of savage might III's for like 4k each and have been slowly making a buck putting them in SMN books and listing for a higher price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantide View Post
    If I can make 100% profit at 50% of the cost an item sells for and sell it faster vs making 20% profit (which may still be less than the farming person made by taking the time to do so), I'll take the larger profit option everytime.
    Here's where your point is lost - we both gather and make the same item, I sell for 3k, you decide to sell for 950g (typical undercut that happens) why would you assume the ones up there were purely bought mats thus deciding to floor the value?

    You make a profit all the while screwing someone else doing exactly the same as you.
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    Last edited by Tupsi; 01-09-2014 at 09:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Here's where your point is lost - we both gather and make the same item, I sell for 3k, you decide to sell for 950g (typical undercut that happens) why would you assume the ones up there were purely bought mats thus deciding to floor the value?

    You make a profit all the while screwing someone else doing exactly the same as you.
    So you want the game to do what exactly? Give standardized base pricing that nobody can go below despite the fact that the amount you're deciding to sell the item at is almost entirely based off a value of your own biased and perceived effort in gathering or crafting that item? You want an entire community to agree to that price on a player controlled free market?

    Ha.

    Haha.

    Hahaha.

    Good luck with that.
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    Last edited by Dhex; 01-09-2014 at 10:06 AM.

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    This thing probably worth an investigation. I agree having 198 same type of materias is definitely not something that can be done in just a few days. However we also cannot count out another possibility that maybe this person mass bought out materias from another world which is selling way cheaper than the current world you are in now. So he just practically did a world transfer and mass sold the materias.

    It is something like a trade for him, using real money for world transfer to get immense amount of gold profit in return.

    But still its too troublesome to do so, so I definitely go with either its botting or duping.
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    Well if the person played in 1.0 it's quite easy to have hundreds of cracked III/IV materia that you can turn into any materia of your choosing @ the salvage NPC.
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