Item Duping???

[LordSaviour]

I was browsing for materias on Diabolos server, when i came across a Retainer selling 2 stacks of 99 Savage Might III.

Is this even possible???

[Welsper59]

Bots. RMT have several groups of spiritbond bots around. Smart ones tend to leave them in obscure locations just killing mobs 24/7.

Maybe market manipulation... Just buy up all lower costing items and sell for a higher price.

Or this. I do this frequently, to be honest. Though it's usually for use, rather than resale. It's fairly rare to come across very cheap t3/4 materia though.

[RafeMacleod]

Maybe market manipulation... Just buy up all lower costing items and sell for a higher price.

[LordSaviour]

Bots. RMT have several groups of spiritbond bots around. Smart ones tend to leave them in obscure locations just killing mobs 24/7.



Or this. I do this frequently, to be honest. Though it's usually for use, rather than resale. It's fairly rare to come across very cheap t3/4 materia though.

They were selling them for 6 or 7 k a pop, which was like 5-6k less than the next item for sale, doubtful it is market manipulation. Besides, they were not selling them in groups of 5 or less, it was complete stacks.

It would take far too much time to get 198 of One type of Materia, even if they were Spiritbond all day everyday.

[KraggyKor]

Maybe market manipulation... Just buy up all lower costing items and sell for a higher price.

A good reason why stuff off the AH shouldn't be relistable by those leeching off the efforts of others.

[Amyas]

A good reason why stuff off the AH shouldn't be relistable by those leeching off the efforts of others.

Also a good reason why the AH should only allow you to undercut by 1 gil once every 3 and a half hours. Or something.

[Noahlimits]

A good reason why stuff off the AH shouldn't be relistable by those leeching off the efforts of others.

I don't think it's really leeching. It's similar to playing the stock market. I bought a bunch of IV materias when they were down to 5k. Most have bounced back between 18-30k on Gilgamesh (as expected). I don't see why this isn't a legit practice. If people want to sell them that low, I'll be more then happy to buy them.

But to have 99 of a III materia AND selling far below market value? Yeah, likely a spirit binding bot.

[Vinroke]

A good reason why stuff off the AH shouldn't be relistable by those leeching off the efforts of others.

What? Buying low and selling higher is how a market works.

[Welsper59]

They were selling them for 6 or 7 k a pop, which was like 5-6k less than the next item for sale, doubtful it is market manipulation. Besides, they were not selling them in groups of 5 or less, it was complete stacks.

It would take far too much time to get 198 of One type of Materia, even if they were Spiritbond all day everyday.

I think you underestimate the efficiency of a party of 8 bots lol. I can mindlessly park my character in my normal SB area and spam a macro if I wanted to. In around 30-40min, almost all of my gear would be 100% bonded. Faster if I actually moved around (or used low ilvl gear). That's just one person mind you. Imagine what 8 bots that function better than someone spamming one hotkey can do lol. Chances are, that's not the only party they're using too. There's at least 2-3 party of bots somewhere. That's 16-24 (if not more) "players" spiritbinding gear 24/7 with a completion rate of under 1hr for a full set of gear (12-13 materia created per bot, 96-104 materia per party, per hour). Obviously, they won't all be Savage Aim, but it's fairly common to get.

It could very well be item duping though, as you think. This wouldn't be the first time people found ways to manipulate data on the servers for this game. The immediate possibility though (botting) seems much more plausible/realistic to me is all.

[LordSaviour]

I guess I could be underestimating the power of a Korean Farm Bot