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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    really nothing, but to counter auction botting is an effective method.
    Btw bahyonne already said they need to fix the market first (not the market wards, the flow of money) before they could implement auction house, otherwise would be useless
    AH botting is a lot less common than you think it is. But more importantly, if your feature fails at its primary duty because you designed it to be anti bot/RMT, then it's a bad feature. Player satisfaction should ALWAYS be first, and preventing RMT and whatever else should be distant seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    AH botting is a lot less common than you think it is. But more importantly, if your feature fails at its primary duty because you designed it to be anti bot/RMT, then it's a bad feature. Player satisfaction should ALWAYS be first, and preventing RMT and whatever else should be distant seconds.
    but preventing RMT is a part of player satisfaction. You say the Market Wards fail, I honestly don't see your problem.

    They are not hard to use (although a better search would be nice) and yes there is a crowd problem (but that can be fixed as well) other then that the Wards provide the same thing that players need as an AH does, just in a different way.

    Like I said before, do the wards need work?, yes, but do they need to be scrapped and replaced with an AH?, no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    but preventing RMT is a part of player satisfaction. You say the Market Wards fail, I honestly don't see your problem.

    They are not hard to use (although a better search would be nice) and yes there is a crowd problem (but that can be fixed as well) other then that the Wards provide the same thing that players need as an AH does, just in a different way.

    Like I said before, do the wards need work?, yes, but do they need to be scrapped and replaced with an AH?, no.
    Pretty sure nobody in their right mind would ask for RMT prevention at the cost of their own enjoyment. And I'm pretty sure the MW isn't very affective at stopping it regardless.
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    I understand people like the idea of setting up their own shops, but the way real Bazaars (let's admit it, they're trying for a bazaar here) worked was like a flea market. You would bring the things you had, sell them to a merchant, and then that person would turn it around and sell it for a profit. I'm not saying the wards should be like that. In FFXIV the "merchants" should be hired to sell for you, and then you give them a tax for their services. Not EVERYONE in the city has the potential to be a merchant. The cities need to have NPCs specifically designed for selling your items. Can have a few in the same zone, spread out a bit to reduce area lag which seems to be such a big problem for people right now.

    Also, I agree that it doesn't matter how long it takes. What matters to me is that it's unorganized and unstable.
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    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    AH botting is a lot less common than you think it is. But more importantly, if your feature fails at its primary duty because you designed it to be anti bot/RMT, then it's a bad feature. Player satisfaction should ALWAYS be first, and preventing RMT and whatever else should be distant seconds.
    bs to that Look to WoW or ffxi and how many "afk'ers" are around the AH. And never move. >.> Also, there is no issue, the players are not satisifed for a STUPID reason: walking. sorry SE can't fix that issue. People just need to get over it. It doesn't take long to use the MW not with the search and marking system. Stop talking like that doesn't exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryNixon View Post
    P.S. Wolfie the pink pony in your sig. has the best "That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard" look I've seen in a while.
    Spot on. It's my reaction to reading most of the dev posts and player suggestions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    bs to that Look to WoW or ffxi and how many "afk'ers" are around the AH. And never move. >.> Also, there is no issue, the players are not satisifed for a STUPID reason: walking. sorry SE can't fix that issue. People just need to get over it. It doesn't take long to use the MW not with the search and marking system. Stop talking like that doesn't exist.
    Did you ever stop to think that most of those people might just... be AFK? Since, you know, FFXI doesn't auto-disconnect your character.
    Or maybe they're not bots, but people with too much free time on their hands (such as actual RMT, for which MW is not a deterrent)?

    Whatever, I'm done replying to you. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.]
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