Anyone Have Data on Block and Parry Percentage?

[Yunnie]

Ok since we're on topic of shields, what do you guys consider BiS for shield? Allagan or onion shield? I'm very curious!

[WingsofWar]

• Allagan Round Shield - STR9 / VIT10 / ACC7 / PARRY11 (181/181)
• Holy Shield Zenith - STR9 / VIT10 / SKLLSPD7 / PARRY11 (181/181)
• Onion Shield - STR9 / VIT10 / PARRY7 / CRIT11 (295/92)

Allagan Round Shield's ACC and PARRY values are most wanted stats especially going towards T5 coil where acc caps rise. As a tank you def don't want to be missing any hits.
For all other content, Holy Shield Zenith's Parry will be enough and the skill speed is a nice bump.

Onion shield however looks like it wants to be used as a DPS build, sacrificing parry for some crit and doing away with block strength in favor of more frequent smaller blocks. If i was a strict OT PLD for lets say DF Titan HM (2tanks), and I know id never MT or need to block big damage, ie mountain buster. Id use the Onion Shield rather Allagan Round Shield or Holy Shield Zenith.

[Judge_Xero]

Secondary stats aside the Onion Shield will have about 2% higher average mitigation compared to the other I90 shields. So probably ideal for lots of small trash. Either Holy or Allagan will be best on bosses where you negate spike damage with bulwark

[AugustusSB]

Ok since we're on topic of shields, what do you guys consider BiS for shield? Allagan or onion shield? I'm very curious!

Allagan is BiS, but only because of the ACC vs SS buff when compared to Holy Zenith

[PiedPiper]

Secondary stats aside the Onion Shield will have about 2% higher average mitigation compared to the other I90 shields. So probably ideal for lots of small trash. Either Holy or Allagan will be best on bosses where you negate spike damage with bulwark

How can we possibly know this unless we have any real idea of how block rate impacts total number of blocks.

Again, we need to know the actual percentage of attacks we will block.


Also, while those tables suggest that strength is the only factor in how much you parry, initial investigation has revealed that at about 40 more parry than my off tank, who is a warrior with more strength than me, I mitigate 24% of damage via parry while he only stops 21%, so I do believe parry rating impacts amount parried (and probably frequency of parry). [Note: I play master race, aka: Paladin)].

[Brodek]

I've been reading some of the stuff posted, but I have a question, how much parry is too much? Right now i got 507 (still working on gear) but I dont know if there is a soft cap on parry for coil, since that and the Ex primals are the main high end raids

[Kitru]

Allagan is BiS, but only because of the ACC vs SS buff when compared to Holy Zenith

It depends. There's loads of Acc scattered around everywhere else so the Allagan shield is only BiS if you actually need that acc to hit the cap. If you don't need the acc because you can make up for it elsewhere, the acc doesn't really come into it.

Honestly, I'd be willing to say that the Onion Shield is a viable contender for BiS because it's got the insanely high block rate: blocking more for less actually smooths out your incoming damage which makes you easier to heal. Even if you end up taking more damage over time, it'll be easier on the healers, which is what mitigation is all about anyways.

[Judge_Xero]

Honestly, I'd be willing to say that the Onion Shield is a viable contender for BiS because it's got the insanely high block rate: blocking more for less actually smooths out your incoming damage which makes you easier to heal. Even if you end up taking more damage over time, it'll be easier on the healers, which is what mitigation is all about anyways.

Was thinking that as well. I haven't played a round with any low Block shields to see if there is a floor on block damage % at lvl 50 but if there is then it could put the onion way ahead.

[PiedPiper]

I've been reading some of the stuff posted, but I have a question, how much parry is too much? Right now i got 507 (still working on gear) but I dont know if there is a soft cap on parry for coil, since that and the Ex primals are the main high end raids

I do not think there is a soft cap on parry, as there doesn't seem to be a soft cap on any other stat. At 583 parry my parsed parry rate and the amount it says I parry for have continued to increase. The most available is near 620 or so I think, and I would assume it keeps giving returns.

Most people, including myself, have been told that parry rating only affects the amount of parries while strength determines how much you mitigate. Personal testing, however, has shown that increasing parry while strength remains the same has resulted in me parrying for more. At the base str of a i90 pld with 30 in vit and 583 parry rating, I mitigate 24% of damage.

Also, since the game has been shown to check parry before block, (ie it checks to see if you parry, if that check fails, then checks to block), I doubt a higher block rate shield would help much. As your gear improves your parry rate gets quite high. Accordingly, your combined parry + block mitigation rate is very high.

[Pesmergia]

This data doesn't tell you anything about chance to block or parry, just the amount blocked or parried.

Click on the link at the bottom broski. The doc.

Edit: I'll post here for convienance. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0