Labyrinth and its terribly behaving players

[snowybell]

I've noticed CT has become a huge tank e-peen arena as well. I constantly see tanks comparing and bragging about their sword sizes. and this just leads to havoc, bickering, and general wast of everyones time.

I just had one tank in the other alliance that wanted to be the "MT party", alliance A. He just stood in the middle for every boss and asked B to move to the left/behind.
He literally just ran in when at first alliance A was still at the left, he just took all of alliance B's trash mobs and left A's side empty with only one OT. And bone dragon onwards.
Instead of arguing, B just moved, guess they couldn't be bothered to deal with him.

Why? Just because.

[TouchandFeel]

This whole concept of tanks in CT being horrible and egotistical douches is really more of a two way street, at least in my eyes as a tank that has done CT many times and both as mt and it.

On one hand, yes, there are many many horrible tanks that have inflated egos and that act like they can do no wrong and that people should be thanking them for even queueing.
These players are unarguably bad and are the bane of any group, however in my experience there are a lot of terrible dps and healers too.

On the other hand often times perfectly good and experienced tanks will get flamed by other players when it was really the other player being lazy or messing up that screwed everything up. Tanks just make easy scapegoats so undue blame falls easily into their lap.
A perfect example of this was a ct run I did. We got to King and I was going to mt him. I was looking to make sure everyone was in position when suddenly a bard runs forward and attack king, starting the fight. I see this and immediately provoke, shield lob and run forward to get in range, during which time the other dps have begun to nuke him. In the 10-12 seconds that it took to run to position, do a full combo and wrestle back emnity from the DPs that were going nuts on him, a number of players were killed and this ultimately ended in a wipe. Then the same bard that started the fight prematurely starts flaming me over chat, saying that " I should quit being a tank because I suck ... Blah blah blah"

So anyways, it goes both ways and terrible and rude players are unfortunately common amongst all roles in ct.

[Lyrinn]

I don't think anyone is saying tanks are the only bads or trolls in CT. I've seen DPS get flak on the Allagan Bomb because no one was killing the adds. It's just that, unfortunately, tanks do get the spotlight in a lot of the fights just because of the mechanics involved, so when a tank does mess up or intentionally wipe the alliance, it's very noticeable.

[Paks]

Many people treat it like an easy mode fate and act like idiots in the process.

[WhaleBiologist]

School holidays maybe?

MMO's always descend into filth when the children are allowed unlimited play time.

I have also seen some hilarious tank behaviour. Tanks insisting on tanking behemoth/iron giant despite clearly struggling with proper sentence structure and the failing to tank where they should be, followed by a rage quit. Basically CT has affirmed my pro-choice stance.

[Loungeo]

Alternatively, I'm sick and tired of the snail's pace every CT group runs at.

You may blame people like me for pulling too quickly, but on the other hand, I'm not there to wait around for 23 people who want to randomly AFK or take their sweet time all raid. CT is horrible for people making others wait.

I wait to see that everyone is there, and at full HP. Then I wait about 5 seconds, so there's time to cast protect, then I go. I should not have to wait the 1-5 minutes after each pull it takes for all alliance to say they're ready. Trash pulls definitely also don't require 24 people to be present.

If multiple people are AFK during a pull, it's their own fault. If the raid wipes because of it, it's not the puller's fault, it's theirs. Don't join a raid if you have other shit you need to be doing.

[Megido]

Don't join a raid if you have other shit you need to be doing.

Seems like you're the one in a hurry

[Firetta]

I was part of a truly epic Crystal Tower meltdown which ended with us clearing Acheron with 6 minutes left on the clock. There were probably a handful of us left in the 24 people who actually stayed with it through the entire dungeon; people were dropping left and right. We wiped like eight times on King Behemoth, partially due to trolling, and the culmination of the entire thing was four attempts to vote-kick a Marauder from our alliance (not a Warrior) and three attempts to vote-kick the other Scholar. The first attempt to vote-kick the Marauder was successful, but he just rejoined in progress and the next three attempts failed. It was just bizarre.

[Worm]

Two tanks can't vote kick on their own. Apparently 3 others agreed with them. are you sure your behavior wasn't also questionable?

I mean they simply could have queued with people. This whole "you were asking for that kick" logic always amazes me. People do get wrongly kicked/banned.

[CosmicOwl]

I just started doing CT runs late last week, so I had/have a lot to learn. I've seen a lot of different behaviors and I've had wildly different parties. I have had parties ranging from the fun, smooth, wipe-less runs and I have had parties from hell, filled with wipes, bickering, and vote-kicking.

All I can say is that the poster who stated that Tanks are generally more noticeable is correct. It's much harder to keep track of so many DPS (unless he/she does something very bizarre), but due to most of the fight mechanics even the smallest mistake by a MT or OT is noticeable. I'm ashamed to admit it, but I quit a CT run tonight because I messed up three times on King Behemoth and didn't want to get flamed. I was also pretty embarrassed by my stupid mistakes, but I already started to catch flak before my death, and I just couldn't sit through a flame-fest… the arguments are the worst part of CT for me.