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  1. #1
    Player
    TouchandFeel's Avatar
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    Exodus
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    Paladin Lv 91
    I've definitely had some really really really bad alliances in CT.

    I've had trolling tanks that intentionally would try to wipe the raid and would screw up other tanks by provoking off the MT and then pulling the boss into everyone else.
    I've had people start rooms when maybe half the raid has gotten into position or are even there.
    I've had dps decide that they wanted to initiate King Behemoth because we needed to "gooooo gooooo gooooo" even though people were just getting into position.

    Then of course there is all the trash talking and it usually is the people that F'ed up and caused the wipe that throw the most blame around.

    All in all, yeah CT seems to expose you to the worst that the playerbase has to offer.
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    Reft Loungeo
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Alternatively, I'm sick and tired of the snail's pace every CT group runs at.

    You may blame people like me for pulling too quickly, but on the other hand, I'm not there to wait around for 23 people who want to randomly AFK or take their sweet time all raid. CT is horrible for people making others wait.

    I wait to see that everyone is there, and at full HP. Then I wait about 5 seconds, so there's time to cast protect, then I go. I should not have to wait the 1-5 minutes after each pull it takes for all alliance to say they're ready. Trash pulls definitely also don't require 24 people to be present.

    If multiple people are AFK during a pull, it's their own fault. If the raid wipes because of it, it's not the puller's fault, it's theirs. Don't join a raid if you have other shit you need to be doing.
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    Megido's Avatar
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    Datura Megido
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Loungeo View Post
    Don't join a raid if you have other shit you need to be doing.
    Seems like you're the one in a hurry
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    Morri Umi
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisersoke View Post
    I recently noticed rampant behavior issues
    The rest of that group was just as bad for votekicking you as those tanks were. They either just didn't pay attention to who they were votekicking or we're too afraid the tanks would quit if they didn't get their way :/
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    Clara Necris
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    Tonberry
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Worst I had was two nights ago. Alliance B's tanks were... just awful. Their healers just as bad. They were struggling to keep alive in Bone Dragon, Atomos, Thanatos- we wiped a few times due to their alliance.
    Comes to behemoth, I say in Alliance chat that it would be best if A or C tank this as B seems to be struggling.

    B immediately launches into racial slurs against me (Google Translate is awesome). I was called a filthy gaijin (outsider/foreigner) and a whole heck of a lot of stuff I'm not gonna repeat here.

    We make it through to Acheron, and upon both A and C calling ready i tell my tank to just go pull Acheron, that it's safer if we do.
    So he does, and B chucks a hissy fit, all /sit'ing. Of course this causes a wipe when Ancient Flare is cast.

    Next pull, they all just stood huddled up, none of them assisting in the fight at all unless a claw grabbed one of their own. They ran into the shields etc, but none of them ever touched Acheron.
    We downed him easily enough, which seemed to anger them and they went off at us calling us gaijin again and hackers. A quick lodestone search after leaving identified 6/8 of them being from Mandragora, their FC didn't show up on their character sheets though.

    Won't post names due to TOS
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    Last edited by Alexia89; 01-10-2014 at 03:52 PM. Reason: Grammar/post length

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    Lyrinn's Avatar
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    M'kael Jin
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 3
    For me, it seems like it's always the first pull, Bone Dragon and Atomos that brings out the trolls. Tail swipe and skeleton stacking makes wiping the entire alliance way too easy, and people treating Atomos as a DPS race has them doing unproductive things to slow down the other groups (i.e. not standing on the platform). I've seen stupid things on Behemoth too but I haven't had any obvious issues with him. I guess he's not as fun to troll with?
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    Last edited by Lyrinn; 01-10-2014 at 04:21 PM.

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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    This is pretty disappointing to read. Sorry that happened to you OP. I was looking forward to CT, honestly. But I've heard nothing short of complaints and disappointments, mostly over alliance teamwork and/or trolls/abusive players, and while it doesn't put me off of trying CT when I finally can, it isn't a very motivating factor.

    As a minor remedy, I'd recommend perhaps forging an "alliance" of free companies. Perhaps meet and form positive relationships with at least 2 other FCs on your server in order to run CT? I'm aware there's no guarantee that you'll all end up together (SE, can you do something about this or no?), but it's worth a shot. Worst case scenario: you meet a bunch of other players that you can enjoy playing with, CT or otherwise
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    Brises Ravenheart
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisersoke View Post
    I recently noticed rampant behavior issues in Labyrinth, and I'm sure its not only me, but do people seem to make even more of an fool of themselves in this sole duty? My most recent, and surely not the first or last, The tanks pulled when not everyone was ready, and we died the VERY first trash pull, so when suggesting that the tanks should ensure that everyone is ready before pulling mindlessly instead of actually taking a good suggestion for face value, they proceeded to harass me all the way up to the first boss, at which point they were still doing, and the very moment I said that they were childish, they vote kicked me from the group.

    I just feel there should be more of a punishment for so blatantly being so uncooperative in such a large dungeon, It didn't really make me all that angry, it just feels a lot like a recurring problem in the raid, as in nearly every group I'm in has many people that harass and troll for no apparent reason. I have a feeling it isn't just me.
    Two tanks can't vote kick on their own. Apparently 3 others agreed with them. are you sure your behavior wasn't also questionable?
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    Gulvak Garamonde
    World
    Coeurl
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Brises View Post
    Two tanks can't vote kick on their own. Apparently 3 others agreed with them. are you sure your behavior wasn't also questionable?
    I mean they simply could have queued with people. This whole "you were asking for that kick" logic always amazes me. People do get wrongly kicked/banned.
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    Cearka Larue
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    Sargatanas
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    I've noticed CT has become a huge tank e-peen arena as well. I constantly see tanks comparing and bragging about their sword sizes. and this just leads to havoc, bickering, and general wast of everyones time.
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