Lockouts: The game

[Razzle]

yeah sorry... updates every 3 months - totally fast

Basically what you guys are saying is that players should be punished for playing the game. If a player plays 24/7 SE shouldn't go and say "l0lz itz ur problem", they should make content last that much.

[Mega_Man_U]

yeah sorry... updates every 3 months - totally fast

Basically what you guys are saying is that players should be punished for playing the game. If a player plays 24/7 SE shouldn't go and say "l0lz itz ur problem", they should make content last that much.

What game, at three months from launch, had enough content to keep a player engaged for three months playing 24/7?

[Razzle]

What game, at three months from launch, had enough content to keep a player engaged for three months playing 24/7?

um. This game isnt 3 month old can we stop using that excuse? it launched a few years ago. And well, if they don't have enough content to support their players maybe they shouldn't have launched it or made it free until they do. It's a game we're supposed to play it, not wait for cooldowns.

[Jamez82]

Ah yes, i remember what MMOs once were. Screaming for hours hoping someone would join that raid you were making and need just 31 more people to do. Wandering around that world of 4 repeating trees and rocks. Needing a small army to get any kind of reasonable experience. Losing experience on death, often costing 8 hours or more of grindtime. Finally defeating that uber raid boss that required half your server to kill, and getting a couple bits of silver. Yep, those were the days. Can't say i miss em.

I miss it. Gave a sense of accomplishment when you completed something. It was trialing at times though there's no doubt. But it made the victories all the more exciting.

[BloodPact]

I got into GW2 recently and it has opened my eyes. No subscription fee and they pump out content faster than FFXIV has. Holiday events that are more than go do a fate three times. Can do as many dungeons as I want, and they all remain difficult. Leveling that isn't a faceroll (seriously I die more in a hour on GW2 than I did 1-50 on FFXIV, which isn't hard since I died once on FFXIV). A personal story that is fully voice acted, a world that is also fully voice acted. I could go on but I won't.

I am really happy you finally found the game that suits your style, and to top it off it's free (of subscription)! Great day for you. Make also nice for me by leaving all of your belongings to either of my retainers. They've already been told that a nice, tall, pointy-eared man will be dropping some things for me.

A normal person would evaluate the situation and either:
1) Decide this is a worthwhile way to spend free time, but there are some things you as a costumer want changed, so you contact the business (Square Enix Feeback!!!!! not other costumers) and see if they can satisfy your needs.
2) Decide this is a worthwhile way to spend free time, although you dislike some things about the service, and decide the pros outweigh the cons and continue to pay for the service.
3) Stop paying for the service since you are not happy with it.

I've never gotten why costumers come here to complain to other costumers about how the business should satisfy their needs. It's like they want therapy or something.

[File2ish]

um. This game isnt 3 month old can we stop using that excuse? it launched a few years ago. And well, if they don't have enough content to support their players maybe they shouldn't have launched it or made it free until they do. It's a game we're supposed to play it, not wait for cooldowns.

Surely you jest? It is a new game.
Yes, the name of FFXIV is not new, 1.0 released in what, 2010? FFXIV: A Realm Reborn is, however, a new game despite what you might think. Literally no content from 1.0-1.23 (aside from references to the prior events of 2.0) exists within ARR. The majority of the systems in the game have changed, the entirety of the maps have been rebuilt (minus the towns which held their setups I think), it has a completely new storyline tied to the events of 1.0, etc.

How does that not make it a new game?

[Gevvy]

um. This game isnt 3 month old can we stop using that excuse? it launched a few years ago.

[Linadae]

This game is currently hard enough. My 65 year old mother plays and she will never get her relic because she no longer has the reflexes to dodge all of the one and two hit mechanics. I will never step into ex mode because I know where my physical limit is.

I'm glad that they plan on nerfing coil when the next turns come out. Coil is part of the main story it solves the mystery of what happened to Louisouix and bahamut. And I would be seriously bummed if I couldn't see it for myself because the content was forever beyond my skill limits.

CT can be as hard as they want because it's not tied to the story in a major fashion. I was furious to learn that the siege of ogrimmar was going to be a raid. People who wanted for over 3 expansions to kick Garrosh's teeth in can't because either they don't raid or just don't have the reflexes to handle the punishing content.

[Magis]

No... the game is too hard already. A lot of people can't even get their relic... just look at Titan and Garuda HM on the DF.

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Remember when relics were something that took months to get and meant something? Too hard my ass.

[BloodPact]

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Remember when relics were something that took months to get and meant something? Too hard my ass.

Relics are no longer endgame in A Realm Reborn. They were a pain to get because of things like the melding process and the extremely expensive prices. There is no difficulty level in materia melding failure rate. You'd have to compare Nael Deus Darnus / Ifrit Extreme vs Extremes / Twintania. I did not do either in 1.0 and have not done Twintania here so I can't really pitch in. But just wanted to point out that relics in 1.X are what Allagans are today. Cannot company them like that.