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    Muzy's Avatar
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    Nira Muzyka
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Otoha View Post
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    The endgame crafted gear actually serves as a decent jump off point if you are a new 50, also the crafted ilevel 70 weapons are great for alt classes if you aren't downing ex primals or farming Allagan weapons and have horrible luck with the RNG.

    Rare gear? Esplain how "rare" gear would make the end game more interesting, as it is with the RNG being the way it is, any piece of gear can be rare.

    Highest ilevel gear being obtainable through Badges/Tokens/whatever you wanna call it, it's rather akin to end game gear being craftable, just skipping the middle man of a player, and yes, it is still on a small "lockout".

    Lockouts are used to slow progression down, to give people something to look forward to, instead of, oh look, I spent 3 days straight running this stuff, now I have all the gear in the game, I'm bored now. Or being at the mercy of extreme RNG(which we kinda already are...).
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    Atemi'a Arecis
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Otoha View Post
    No endgame crafted gear worth using, no rare gear whatsoever, highest ilvl gear obtainable through buying from NPCs, etc.

    None of these elements in this MMO, make its endgame/gear progression poorly designed.

    I never said lockouts alleviate it, I said they're forced to use them as a result of their poorly designed game.
    There is no endgame crafter gear, period. ilvl70 is not endgame. Pentamelded is stuff is good, but that doesn't make the item endgame. It was said many times that no crafted armor would rival the best dungeon loot. Hero's gear and Relic armor are among the highest level gear obtainable, they are not the highest alone. Gives a section of players who play less a chance at high level gear, while others who spend more time playing, usually min/maxers will still have to dump loads of time collecting the best in slot items for their characters farming primal accessories and Allagan armor. If you ask me, they are providing content to both types of players, not poorly designed in the least.Now, Coil before Crystal Tower, I agree, backwards as hell. They admitted to the mistake. It supposedly won't happen again.
    Lockouts have been discussed enough for me to touch on them again. It's basically the carrot on the stick. It is a business, and it makes sense. Do you think Wineport would be like it is every Monday if it wasn't for it. Coca Cola had it's way of making the drink appealing to you. A Realm Reborn does too. If not you wouldn't be even posting in here.
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    Whiz Lightyear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Otoha View Post
    People's problem isn't that they want the lockout removed to obtain all the gear they want; its the fact that the game was designed so poorly to have to put a lockout in the first place.
    Almost Every mmo has endgame lockouts. All of them bro...so if you feel mmo's are a bad game design why did you decide to play one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Otoha View Post
    People's problem isn't that they want the lockout removed to obtain all the gear they want; its the fact that the game was designed so poorly to have to put a lockout in the first place.
    Oh dear god, the sheer stupidity in this post just made my day, thank you, for proving that indeed, people can get dumber.
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    Jo Maru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiz View Post
    Almost Every mmo has endgame lockouts. All of them bro...so if you feel mmo's are a bad game design why did you decide to play one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Muzy View Post
    Oh dear god, the sheer stupidity in this post just made my day, thank you, for proving that indeed, people can get dumber.
    Always the ARR noobs that like to defend the game.
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    Magis Luagis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Otoha View Post
    Always the ARR noobs that like to defend the game.
    Even FFXI had lockouts. Dynamis could only be done once per day, and that was 10 years ago! Lockouts have been in MMOs for ages. There are things to complain about, but lockouts is the least of anyone's worry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Otoha View Post
    Always the ARR noobs that like to defend the game.
    so you played FF XIV when it was terrible?

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    Ein rotäugiger Kunde betritt dein Geschäft.
    Halb Engel, halb Todesgott.
    Du wirst ihm die Geheimnisse des Kalenders verkaufen.
    Besonders über jene des elften wird er sich freuen.
    Der Kunde wird an einem warmen Tag zurückkehren
    und dich allein mit dem Mann mit Petruskreuz lassen.
    Der falsche vierte Mond wird aus dem Kalender fallen.
    Es verbleiben nur sechs Blätter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otoha View Post
    Always the ARR noobs that like to defend the game.
    *Looks at Onion Helm, Asuran Armguards, Right of Passage, leatherbound journal and 1.0 CE security token* Say what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Otoha View Post
    Always the ARR noobs that like to defend the game.
    lol noobs...I've played FF11, DCUO, Rift. GW2, Marvel Heros and FF14. I must of left a few out but you get the picture Although your mmo experience seems little to none.
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    Dracyn Navarre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzy View Post
    Oh dear god, the sheer stupidity in this post just made my day, thank you, for proving that indeed, people can get dumber.
    "Two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the Universe." -Albert Einstein
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