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    EternityFate's Avatar
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    Eternity Godslayer
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    Please make a separated DUTY FINDER for experienced/completed players only!

    Can we have that? and yes, i know there is PARTY FINDER but will be good to play with experienced/completed players fron others servers too ^^ this will make easy primal extremes for all players.So... in future will be possible make 2 duty finder? for experienced and beginners only?(sorry for that horrible english)
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    Kai Faelan
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    Experienced doesn't equal good. There are still plenty of experienced players who can't play a primal for squat. I'm one of them... I've played HM Garuda like 5-6 times and I still don't know how to MT it. I can OT it just fine. Go figure *shrug* I haven't actually played any extremes at all yet, but I still think I'll do just fine once I do try them. It's not always so cut and dry as to who can play well based on New vs. Experienced.
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Quote Originally Posted by jabbywocks View Post
    Experienced doesn't equal good. There are still plenty of experienced players who can't play a primal for squat. I'm one of them... I've played HM Garuda like 5-6 times and I still don't know how to MT it. I can OT it just fine. Go figure *shrug* I haven't actually played any extremes at all yet, but I still think I'll do just fine once I do try them. It's not always so cut and dry as to who can play well based on New vs. Experienced.
    First post accuracy. I think there is a gap between having cleared it before and being decent enough for a farm. There are so many people who scrape through EM primals once who cannot repeat it consistently, not to mention people who have bought runs.

    I honestly feel like having a rant about this because its a really frustrating thing but ill be concise instead: pretty much every player out there knows the script, but few know what to do when the fight goes off the script even slightly. Most fights won't go exactly like a MrHappy video, so you have to know the fight not just know how to repeat what he did.

    I feel like the ready-made solutions he provides ruins a lot of players, because they don't think on their feet and just blame something when it doesn't go according to script. No one farms without dealing with surprises.
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    Edwin Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    I feel like the ready-made solutions he provides ruins a lot of players, because they don't think on their feet and just blame something when it doesn't go according to script. No one farms without dealing with surprises.
    I think people maybe doing this wrong if they just follow what MrHappy does. Even MrHappy says in his videos a lot that the thing he does in his guides is something that worked for his group but may not work for others and advises people who watches his guide videos to find how to beat the fight themselves.

    MrHappy's guide videos are more like what to expect during the fight not what should be done in a fight. His video are good to see what will happen at certain points but how each party handle the fight will always be different.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 01-05-2014 at 01:58 PM.

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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    I think people may be doing this wrong if they just follow what MrHappy does. Even MrHappy says in his videos a lot that the thing he does in his guides is something that worked for his group but may not work for others and advises people who watches his guide videos to find how to beat the fight themselves.
    I agree that is how you should take in his videos but my point is that people by and large are actually copying them verbatim, so they are doing it wrong. A good example is how you stack for plumes, if you feel people might clip one or two why stack on a point? This is by far the most common way people dodge plumes and it gives no margin for error, while if you stack in a line behind titan if you have slight lag at worst you will get clipped by one, which is not a death.

    He and the people he plays with are very skilled and adjust to mistakes very well, but this is something not in a lot of groups that use his strats which makes for a inconsistent, flawed party. It's like watching videos of Gordon Ramsay cooking, you can see how he does it and copy his recipes but you are still not Gordon Ramsay.

    He always has disclaimers in his video as you describe but they are just not getting absorbed. People watch because they want to know how to do it so they're going to mostly disregard a point of advice that you should think of better ways to do it. They're not there to think for themselves and they bring this thoughtlessness to parties.
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    Pls no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValorSekari View Post
    Pls no.
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    I still think.. how peoples still try use DUTY FINDER to kill titan ex lol and yes.. you can defeat it in duty finder but sometimes a lot of players in the party is first time... no chance to complete it easy
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    Nu'ziel Celes
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    You do realize completion can just be bought right? I know of someone on my server who is complete trash as a player, but has beaten everything, including T5 and the EX Primals, due to buying it or being carried by "friends".

    On a side note, lol at you actually asking them to implement a form of segregation in a video game.
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    Omega Flare
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    Omg...I completely agree with this. They could just have an option in the current df for players who have completed the duty so those players could choose. As someone who has beaten titan ex multiple times I find it really hard to pair up with other competent players in my server so I often have to rely on df. If SE would have this option, it would make me very happy.

    SE needs to realize that elite players are very few so forming a competent premade group in one server can be very time consuming. Sometimes, there's just not enough competent players online to form a good premade group. That's why being able to group up with other elite players from other servers is crucial.


    Quote Originally Posted by Avankicchi View Post
    You do realize completion can just be bought right? I know of someone on my server who is complete trash as a player, but has beaten everything, including T5 and the EX Primals, due to buying it or being carried by "friends".

    On a side note, lol at you actually asking them to implement a form of segregation in a video game.
    What about the people who just want to farm titan ex for fun? It's very frustrating to be in a group where there's just one noob who dies all the time and prevents the whole group from completing the duty and everyone ends up leaving. It's happened again and again for me.
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    Last edited by OmegaFlare; 01-05-2014 at 09:26 AM.

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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Horrible idea.
    If you don't want to get paired with newbies, make your own group.

    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaFlare View Post
    What about the people who just want to farm titan ex for fun? It's very frustrating to be in a group where there's just one noob who dies all the time and prevents the whole group from completing the duty and everyone ends up leaving. It's happened again and again for me.
    Make your own group.
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