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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petori View Post
    P2P patcher would work better if the game was more active, but it isn't.
    i used utorrent after i googled how and i got 500-600kB/sec download. it took like 4-5 min or so then it was all done.
    The SE client was at 20 kB max started at 400 then went down to 20, a long time 0, then again 10 or 7 kB.... stupid.
    Why does SE just use other peoples software solutions, it starts with the worst torrent client EVER and it ends with one of the worst optimized ENGINE EVER lmao... If i tell this to my friends they think im joking... but im not... sadly
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  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anty View Post
    i used utorrent after i googled how and i got 500-600kB/sec download. it took like 4-5 min or so then it was all done.
    The SE client was at 20 kB max started at 400 then went down to 20, a long time 0, then again 10 or 7 kB.... stupid.
    Why does SE just use other peoples software solutions, it starts with the worst torrent client EVER and it ends with one of the worst optimized ENGINE EVER lmao... If i tell this to my friends they think im joking... but im not... sadly
    I don't know why I even said that lol, more leechers wouldn't be good for this crap patcher. But yeah I dl patches via utorrent too.

    At least we have a choice. Imagine if PS3 version uses the same patcher. They wouldn't be able to play other games for hours or maybe even days.
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarvlad View Post
    Do this on your router
    Then this

    Never had any problems downloading any patch.

    For reference: used a 7Mbps in the past and now using a 15Mbps Cable ISP in Montreal, Canada.
    Thanks for the heads up. Worked like a charm.
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    F*** yeah, green apples!

  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    That what am saying there ISP A: Ports not working right B: there ISP: Sucks and the download just does not work right with there isp. Or C: some people are trying to download ffxiv on a wireless and blame the d/c and slow download on that when wireless sucks for ffxiv.
    This would be valid if the many other MMORPG's I currently have installed, which update regularly, had the same issue. None of them do, they all work flawlessly. One of these things is not like the other.

    At the end of the day it doesn't matter if it is a fixable problem on the users end, as no other patcher (or torrent application) that I have used has these issues, it is ridiculous to expect your end users to compensate for your poor design. Any developer that says "Ah...well, we shall let the end users fix it, its their problem, not ours." will not have many end users for long. And the fact that for most people, simply downloading the patch in a torrent application of their choice, works amazingly well, shows that it is mostly an issue with the updater software itself, and not with the end user.
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    SE, let me tell you what. Blizzard is doing a lot better job than you on their patcher.

    The idea is their patcher lets us download their patches a few days in advance. So when the server reset, everyone has their new patches ready to be installed and no-players have to wait.

    If you guys agree, please give me a like.
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  6. #176
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    You can even download Blizzard's updates while playing the game lol unlike XIV's paranoid "You have XIV already open!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinChuck View Post
    Your "seventeen minutes" is still more than three times what Blizzard and Trion are delivering for patches of the same size, however, so your post actually supports the idea that XIV's patcher takes too long, if simply to a lesser extant.

    WoW, AION, Rift, and Sword 2 (and various others here and there) all currently do not give me these issues, all done through the same setup (as said earlier, looking at the patch sizes proportionately, Rift downloaded in five minutes as opposed to XIV's hour). I'm not saying it absolutely can't be an ISP/router/modem issue for the numerous people here who have issues, but that's still heavily on SE if the other various MMOs out there work fine with the same setups.

    With as many people as have complained, with the wide variety of setups people have, that's quite a large amount of compatibility issues XIV has compared to other companies (particularly the much smaller ones like Trion, which SE should be head and shoulders above).

    So whether it's the more likely issue of SE's patcher needing work, or simply your theory of a comedy of incompatibility issues, it's still not a standard among current MMOs and not acceptable, and fully within SE's power to fix.

    TL;DR, don't go blamin' this on us, when our setups work just fine for everything else out there!
    : D
    Er... I'm not actually blaming anyone? Just throwing out my experience there. Yes, other games patch faster. That's certainly not in dispute. Yoshida has already acknowledged this as an issue, at least, so we know its been brought to their attention. And of course I want to see it improved, heh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    You can even download Blizzard's updates while playing the game lol unlike XIV's paranoid "You have XIV already open!"
    I don't know what you mean? Whenever there are wow patches coming out, the patcher runs at background and save the patch to my hard drive.
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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolBlitz View Post
    I don't know what you mean? Whenever there are wow patches coming out, the patcher runs at background and save the patch to my hard drive.
    I think Viion is saying exactly what you're saying

    I don't mind the way FFXIV updates - where you can't run program while its being updated, that part I can understand/don't mind, got used to from other software + FFXI updates. What I don't get is why we have to download the whole 1.17 patch with the small mini patches attached rather than just the mini patches... They need tech that knows how to make installers/updaters...
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  10. #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    You can even download Blizzard's updates while playing the game lol unlike XIV's paranoid "You have XIV already open!"
    Exactly. Blizzard's patcher allows for both pre-downloading and letting you log in before it's finished.

    Source

    In the upcoming expansion World of Warcraft: Cataclysm, the launcher will be updated to "stream" installation and patch data. The new launcher is broken up into three stages of download progress:
    • SETUP (RED): Core game, or 5% of content, is being prepared. You cannot enter the game at this time.
    • AVAILABLE (YELLOW): Base game, or 70% of content, is not completely applied. You can play, but your game experience will not be ideal. You should ideally have 1 MB/sec or better when choosing to play.
    • PLAYABLE (GREEN): Extended, or 25% of content, is almost complete. You may begin playing at this stage with few game issues. You should ideally have 1 MB/sec or better when choosing to play.
    The Updater and Downloader have been integrated closely into the Launcher, resulting in less application switching when patching and installing.

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