SE sort out your Updater ><

[Cutriss]

Because people are complaining about a patcher when that isn't the issue. It is the congestion of everyong trying to patch at the same time. So really who needs who's brain checked? >.>

Perhaps it's that you're arguing in the face of overwhelming evidence?

Perhaps it's because you're well-known for blindly defending Square Enix for even the tiniest of transgressions?

I'm going to repost this from the 1.17c discussion thread which should basically put all your suggestions to bed. Can't wait for you to tell me that I don't know how to run PCs properly or some BS like that.

Here's what I'd like to know.

Quad-core i7 950, 12 GB of RAM. I start the client up and it's working fine, not stalling but not exactly blazing along.

5 minutes later, I turn on my wife's PC, an older Athlon II X4. She never had any "remote connections", 20 local. I have 34 remote, 26 local. I don't even know what that's supposed to mean anyway, it's a poorly-worded indicator. I assume remote is other users, local is SE-managed nodes, but I dunno.

Her PC has since finished the update, and my PC is just past 50%.

We're on the same connection, on the same switch even.

What's up with that?

In the end I took about 45 minutes to patch. Her PC finished it in under 10. Both are using UPnP. I'm on FIOS, and I have an excellent router.

My best guess is that the netcode used by their custom BT platform does a terrible job of managing leechers, and if you connect strictly to seeders, then you maintain good speeds. But obviously we can't all connect just to seeders, or else we'd be back to the days of the horrible FFXI patcher (albeit with fewer dialogues - AMAZING that the *one* aspect of FFXIV that has fewer dialogue prompts is the updater). Thus, if you connect with uTorrent, with its superior connection-handling, it flies through. As an added plus, uTorrent users continue seeding the file, helping their fellow players out.

So yes. It's not working correctly.

At this point, since they have *so* many other things to do and don't seem to understand yet another aspect of good PC development, they should just disable the patch deletion in the client and post some instructions for using uTorrent to encourage other tech-savvy users to contribute. Doing that would only take a couple of hours and would require no coding and it'd make everyone happier in the long run.

[Rotax]

ahahaha me too!! have 20mb but download 7 b/s ahhah
for me is many problem!
i have private ip,utorrent no work!!
sometimes I wonder,if SE has tried 14 before selling!

[Warlyx]

time remaining 2:13:09.......... speed 0,0.......................23%........................

no hurry here since wont play but want to have it updated.....

[Carmillia]

Same problem of slow download here, however, I launched just before going to work so it should be done by the time I get back home.
In any case, there is a problem and it's not only due to users (us). Moreover, sorry Kilta, but one should not have to wait 2days to be able to downlaod a 300mb patch in a reasonnable amount of time. Please look into it SE.

[Rowyne]

Cheer up Rowyne, we have a good server and good friends to entertain us. Don't you think? :-)

That I will agree with. <3 Besaid!

[Apricoth]

I often rage a bit whenever there is a big patch/update - it is a painful process for me. Even doing it through uTorrent I was experiencing nearly the same effect. So what I end up doing is just waiting until the next morning hoping there are less people I have to compete/take turns with in obtaining the data.

Yes SE - please fix this - I find most of my aggravation, more often than not, comes from this. If it was meant to be innovative, this is innovatively horrid.

[Renshi]

If you're not having Remote Connections try to do this:

The ports you need to open are 54992-55551 TCP/UDP and port 443 UDP open.

and bring FFXIV in the exceptions of your Firewall.

Worked for me since Release.

[Cutriss]

If you're not having Remote Connections try to do this:

and bring FFXIV in the exceptions of your Firewall.

Worked for me since Release.

Based on my experiences, this is exactly what you would *not* want to do, since the PC without Remote Connections finished quite quickly, and the one without took much longer.

[Arcell]

Just going to put this out there, I've only ever had trouble downloading a patch once or twice. Every other time the official SE patcher worked fine and pretty quick. It seems only a select few seem to not have problems with it. That being said they should fix it and give us a proper one, for those who are forced to torrent.

[Rau]

How is it not an issue on SE's end when virtually no other modern MMOs have this problem?

You claim to have played WoW, but if you really had you'd know that the active players out of its 11 million subscribers quickly and smoothly download their patches in a reasonable timeframe, and log in with no problem on patch day. One way they speed up this process with major content patches is by allowing you to pre-download patch data ahead of time so you'll be ready to go on patch day. And if that isn't enough, their patcher is so awesome it's broken into 3 stages. After stage one, you are free to log in and play. That's right, you can log in before it's even finished.

FFXI was off and running before WoW was even heard of. SE is on their second MMO, and they still haven't figured out how to handle their own updates? Was this entire game outsourced during development or something? It's like they don't even know how to fix their own code.

I understand not all companies are Blizzard. So, as it's been mentioned, look at other games like Rift and Aion. Trion and NCSoft are much smaller developers, and you can download and play on patch day, no problem.

And your solution is that people should just wait a day or two?

"Server lag is making it impossible to play." "Just wait."
"Poor UI response is making simple actions take 5 times as long." "Just wait."
"My mouse won't move because it's software rendered." "Just wait."
"Stamina bar and animation-stop between active and passive mode make combat feel slow." "Just wait."
"No chocobos, airships, low-mid level content or endgame." "Just wait."
"It's been nine months now and the game still isn't worthy of the Final Fantasy name." "Just wait."

Seriously, are you Tanaka in disguise? Because that is the attitude that is making people really cranky around here. Everyone is tired of waiting for improvements, and being made to feel like we expect too much when everyone else in the gaming world gets the freaking job done.

10/10
My hero.