i90 Does not make you a good player

[am0n]

Yeah, grinding WP for 2 months of myth sure makes someone a better player!

I know! I'm glad you agree. It's always good to see people in agreement on the forums.

It really doesn't.

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But it does! Even Noah agrees. So we have you out numbered, two to one.

[ispano]

I really haven't. Haven't met a tank yet in any gear that is 'better' than I am in my poor old 'bought' myth gear. Seen a lot of bad tanks in allagan, though that may just be a lucky drop not for what they main.

Just stop looking at their gear and look at their actions. King Behemoth as an example. I've tanked him, i've been the Giant tank and i've done towers. How other OTs handle Giants baffles me. Can't grab it, use flash to grab, try to MELEE to grab it. It's hilarious. The first one spawns where Behemoth is, so yeah you want to move him, I find that FoF/Berserk and Lob/Tomahawk work best til he's in position. The second and third giants however, are on the east and south, so it's simple to just be there right after meteor hits.

In the end, I don't look at gear as a reflection of anything anymore.

[ZDamned]

Yes, well that is one of the WORST parts of that game.

Every immature (whether young or old) idiot humps that stupid number.

You don't need to know anything about gaming, mmorpgs, your class... or really anything about the world- the entire effort at building a virtual world and having virtual systems is all boiled down to one single number.

What is that number called? Iscore - AKA THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR.

Similarly to character level?

Please ApolloGenX, please please please tank Coil in full ilvl 50 gear, and teach me the ways of Skill > Gear. I want to learn from you. Infact, I'll whip out my WHM AF1 and heal you for it!

[ApolloGenX]

Similarly to character level?

Please ApolloGenX, please please please tank Coil in full ilvl 50 gear, and teach me the ways of Skill > Gear. I want to learn from you. Infact, I'll whip out my WHM AF1 and heal you for it!

I would rather tank Coil in ilevel 50 gear with an AF1 whm healing me while laughing about it than waste 10 minutes of my life with an Ilevel 90 geared loud mouthed idiot.

But that's just me... I prefer the company of quality people over some stupid game assigned gear number. I find that usually it makes for a more pleasant experience... we can get better gear- your stuck with your horrible attitude.

[ispano]

I would rather tank Coil in ilevel 50 gear with an AF1 whm healing me while laughing about it than waste 10 minutes of my life with an Ilevel 90 geared loud mouthed idiot.

To many, you're the one being "that guy". ilvl has a purpose, and a good one at that, it's players that warp and distort it into what you believe it is.

[ApolloGenX]

To many, you're the one being "that guy". ilvl has a purpose, and a good one at that, it's players that warp and distort it into what you believe it is.

Well, here's the deal- I don't go run with strangers knowing that I am not ready for content. Content has gear requirements... that's not a huge deal... that's one way to tell if someone can handle content- that is not the same as judging them as a player or person.

[Noahlimits]

Actually I got a bunch of myth from AK, and Coil, as well as a 4/5 Allagan Tank set too. Thanks for judging me before asking me what I have, Oh, I also have 2/3 Primal Tank Accessories. (Titan and Ifrit) Did I buy those too?

Thanks for assuming I yell at people BTW. "Act Better" is not a definitive rotation of speech, or behavior. Acting better is just that. Acting BETTER. As in I tank properly, and call out when other don't. Using skills properly, and calling out when others mis use them. Leading a Raid, when others fail to take leadership properly, and bark out incorrect strategies.

The bottom line is actually in response to the quote directly above it, not to you. But am0n is just trolling, so I shouldn't have even bothered.

I think everyone is missing the point of this; I'm just saying being full i90 doesn't give you a right to act superior/ a jerk to anyone. That's my opinion, disagree if you want.

[ispano]

Well, here's the deal- I don't go run with strangers knowing that I am not ready for content. Content has gear requirements... that's not a huge deal... that's one way to tell if someone can handle content- that is not the same as judging them as a player or person.

And? I won't do things I don't feel i'm prepared for either. That doesn't change the fact you bashed a simple number on your gear that's actually useful.

[ZDamned]

I would rather tank Coil in ilevel 50 gear with an AF1 whm healing me while laughing about it than waste 10 minutes of my life with an Ilevel 90 geared loud mouthed idiot.

But that's just me... I prefer the company of quality people over some stupid game assigned gear number. I find that usually it makes for a more pleasant experience... we can get better gear- your stuck with your horrible attitude.

So... just to be clear:

Clearing Coil in 10(Huh? Turn 1, ALL turns?) minutes = Waste of Life.

Failing the gear check miserably, and wiping over and over = Would rather do.


Ok, I think I understand.

[ApolloGenX]

And? I won't do things I don't feel i'm prepared for either. That doesn't change the fact you bashed a simple number on your gear that's actually useful.

People got along just fine before Iscores. There are other ways of checking gear without such an obvious and overly simplified mechanic.

In fact, back in the "good old days" there were actually different stat requirements for different encounters. I guess that is too complicated for the target audience in this case.