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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100

    Will there ever be an easier way to level up your chocobo?

    There's so many options on how you level yourself up, yet there's only one way to level up your bird. Not only that, but the EXP your chocobo gains is damn pitiful, even against LV49 enemies.


    I only recently got my bird to level 5 after raising him on and off and seeing the EXP needed for another level up makes me cringe.
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    Raestloz's Avatar
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    Vonelis Heischield
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    Tiamat
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I agree that leveling up chocobo is painful. I hate it and that's why I never do it. I summon my chocobo for low level solo content like hunting log but that's about it.

    It's completely detached from other leveling options for us, and leveling us to max level is already hard enough
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    Asriel Blackthorne
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    I'm not entirely sure. Given that it exists entirely as an "extra" activity and doesn't directly impact any of the core content I can imagine them using it as an excuse to keep it difficult.

    At the very least though I'd love if it didn't count you as being in a group. Sometimes when I'm queuing as a DPS I like to go farm mobs while I wait and it'd be nice if I could have my chocobo out without getting knocked out of the dungeon queue.
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    Vonelis Heischield
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    No. I see the current chocobo system as "there for the sake of being there". Chocobos are not pets, they are stupid companions that somehow negatively impacts you in everything but one way: deal additional damage.

    Chocobo cons:
    1. Disables Duty Finder
    2. Disables mount
    3. Takes up a party slot
    4. Takes up money to summon
    5. Takes a very long time to level
    6. Cannot be ordered to do specific skills
    7. Cannot switch target until the target is no longer valid (dead or you moved out of range)
    8. Robs your exp
    9. Requires negligible money to summon

    Chocobo pros:
    1. Deals small additional damage / heal when absolutely nobody is around

    As is, chocobo companion would actually be better off not implemented.
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    Belcross Panda
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    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Raestloz View Post
    As is, chocobo companion would actually be better off not implemented.
    They are minor support companions. If we gave them super features, the bots that are already abusing them in their current state would love it even more.
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    Vonelis Heischield
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    Tiamat
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I do not ask them to be party member replacement. I just ask them to be something like Emerald Carbuncle, something that can help you but not to the point of replacing party member. In fact, make them act just like a Topaz Carbuncle minus enmity generation and I'm very happy. Controlling chocobo is a dream I wish can come true.

    If the concern is bots, simply remove chocobo altogether. It will reduce headcahe in SE's part. Allow chocobo bardings to be obtained elsewhere, such as obtaining your role's relic, for example.
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    Katchii Soilsiu
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    Archer Lv 60
    They are minor support companions. If we gave them super features, the bots that are already abusing them in their current state would love it even more.
    There are better ways to combat bots that don't negatively affect the gameplay for other players. What decisive advantage does a chocobo give a botter anyway? I have a hard time believing that it's so huge that it warrants making the system as bad as it is now.

    As it is now, I don't feel like the trade-offs for having the chocobo out are worth it, therefore to me the system is useless.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Considering I'm already at level 50, there's no worry about having EXP lost to the bird. However, it's extremely silly that the chocobo's level scales to yours, whether by level sync or when you switch jobs that is not capped on levels, yet its EXP curve doesn't change.

    I get that having a summoned Chocobo is good for people leveling up while solo, but the player greatly outclasses his/her pet at such a fast rate that it's like a cheap version of the Arcanist.
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    Tiger Undie
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    Alpha
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    Fisher Lv 100
    whats hard with pulling some mobbs and kill them together with other people

    use party find, get a water elemental group at quarrymill and farm them, beside that you can make a lot of money by spiritbonding gear

    getting a lvl 10 chocobo by this way takes a lesser amount of time then reaching "trusted" at any beasttribe, which gives absolutely no advantages too
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    Player
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    There are better ways to combat bots that don't negatively affect the gameplay for other players. What decisive advantage does a chocobo give a botter anyway? I have a hard time believing that it's so huge that it warrants making the system as bad as it is now.

    As it is now, I don't feel like the trade-offs for having the chocobo out are worth it, therefore to me the system is useless.
    This.

    And to be perfectly honest, what kind of bot have chocobo out? The kind that has reached level 30, that's what. And what kind of bot reaches level 30?

    Edit:
    Btw the last part is not rethoric. I heat about mining bots all the time, but bots that farm using chocobo I have never heard of
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    Last edited by Raestloz; 01-09-2014 at 01:53 PM.

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