Allow vote kicking in PvP (To deny rewards to botters)

[Alhanelem]

Currently 5 minutes must pass to cast a kick vote in the Wolves' Den.. This is laughable because most matches are over before that's even possible. Vote kicking needs to be allowed prior to match start in order to remove botters from the game- Having them on the team is worse than not having them.

Failing that, reduce the time to 3 minutes and allow kicking during combat.

[Elianne]

Yes, please! This would be fantastic.

[Quackley]

Too much room for abuse, either by 3 mans, or people who just enjoy being jerks/get really mad at some new player or something. :/

I guess you could disable premades from kicking, but random people still do that kinda thing too often.

[Alhanelem]

Too much room for abuse, either by 3 mans, or people who just enjoy being jerks/get really mad at some new player or something. :/

I guess you could disable premades from kicking, but random people still do that kinda thing too often.

There's no real potential for abuse at all, because if you kick someone, they're not going to get replaced. While you can join in progress for the wolves den, it will never happen.

I can't see a 3 man kicking out their fourth. They wouldn't be any better off unless the 4th was a bot.

Also something to note, the time before you can kick is much lower than other duties, so someone thought of it, however once the 60 second countdown is over, unless everyone is AFK, you won't be able to initiate the vote due to being in combat.

Regardless, this seems a much better way to get rid of botters compared to reporting which seems to do nothing.

[Quackley]

There's no real potential for abuse at all, because if you kick someone, they're not going to get replaced. While you can join in progress for the wolves den, it will never happen.

I can't see a 3 man kicking out their fourth. They wouldn't be any better off unless the 4th was a bot.

My point is that some people would be angry, see having x player as guaranteed loss, and vote kick them rather than play the match.

There's a thread about a guy being told to go kill himself and stuff for being a bad player/being new.
Do you really think people wouldn't try to screw that guy out of his rewards, even if it meant taking a loss themselves?

[TaneshimaPopura]

I tell you the abuse... 3 Man party votekicks the 4th person have someone in LS to queue the 4th place as in progress. Tada 4 Man team.

[Koltik]

I can't see a 3 man kicking out their fourth. They wouldn't be any better off unless the 4th was a bot.

You'd be surprised at how many games I wish I didn't have that 4th person when I am queueing up with a BLM friend of mine. People who can't follow marks are more detrimental than beneficial to the party. If I knew someone would do this (based on previous games), I'd probably kick them if I could.

[Alhanelem]

I tell you the abuse... 3 Man party votekicks the 4th person have someone in LS to queue the 4th place as in progress. Tada 4 Man team.

Wouldn't work. Would take too long to be effective.

I dont' know. I understand the concern, but I'd really like a better way to deal with bots. Technically you can't 100% beyond all doubt prove a botter without scanning their computer, which is something that SE doesn't do, so it is really difficult to get SE to ban absentee players.