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    SoulKhan's Avatar
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    Khan Noonien'singh
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    Paladin Lv 90

    Extreme loss of humanity

    X modes,
    People need to not bash others for trying to learn something that those people may already know or else this mmo wont last another 6 months, With new players leveling up and getting to this content.
    I have done almost everything in game and enjoy most of it to say the least but when it comes down to extreme modes, I do not enjoy.
    Reasons,
    People expect you to be born with the knowledge of the entire fight.
    People want you to watch videos. (The 1st group(s) to beat x modes didn't because there was none out because it was new content and still is and will be for a while)
    People are so cool they have to charge for clears and make others feel that they fail.
    People leave instantly or blame other players for taking there own personal time away from them like as if they are godlike and everyone else is a problem in there way.
    These are my thoughts as a skilled and hard working gamer that would like to be part of a nice community. After all we are all still human, Are we not?
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    Last edited by SoulKhan; 01-06-2014 at 02:17 PM.

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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Maybe it's time to rethink trials... being able to warp in the instance and be right in front of the only boss seems to be making everyone impatient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    Maybe it's time to rethink trials... being able to warp in the instance and be right in front of the only boss seems to be making everyone impatient.
    Maybe something like a small dungeon leading to the extreme bosses that have some pattern type of gaming in it to test players and help them learn the pattern / rotation of the boss they are about to encounter, When the new player completes this they will now have access to the x mode boss that they are going to. And can repeat this test before the boss as many times as they wish on a solo instance that is for the player going for it, So that others that know it can just df or pf and make groups and they don't have to do this (before the boss test)
    Now that would be cool, I just thought this up :P
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    Last edited by SoulKhan; 01-06-2014 at 02:32 PM. Reason: Hire me se lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    Maybe it's time to rethink trials... being able to warp in the instance and be right in front of the only boss seems to be making everyone impatient.
    A nice comparison would be Sonic 1 for the Genesis/Mega Drive and the Master System. On the MS, we just go have at it with Robotnik, but on the original Genesis version, we had to pass through a whole level.

    Moral: SEGA DOES WHAT NINTENDON'T.


    I don't think there's any way to make current trials work with a pre-dungeon.
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    "Absurdity is the only reality."
    ~Frank Zappa

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    Quote Originally Posted by cotti View Post
    I don't think there's any way to make current trials work with a pre-dungeon.
    There's tons of way to make it work because they did so in most other FF games where you fought Summons with a few exceptions. Hell, even in FFXI if you weren't a summoner and did mini-avatars, you had to go through a respective dungeon to reach the avatar fight because you had to get to crystal that houses the avatar (in most regards) or through certain other dungeons where they were previously released (Einherjar - Odin, Undersea Ruins - Alexander, Pso`Xja - Diabolos and Fullmoon Fountain - Fenrir.)

    Previous FF games did even so much as a small puzzle or set of puzzles, very rarely did you just get off your airship, go inside of a cave and fight a main summon lol, especially in the later FF games. So the only way it won't work is if Yoshi keeps developing this game where "accessibility" means nothing to "stress the player."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoulKhan View Post
    People want you to watch videos. (The 1st group(s) to beat x modes didn't because there was none out because it was new content and still is and will be for a while)
    This is the only part I can understand requiring you to do before joining a group. Why not watch a video of what you're about to get into so you can have a basic idea of what to expect? It helps when people are trying to explain the fight if you see the steps visually as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruri View Post
    This is the only part I can understand requiring you to do before joining a group. Why not watch a video of what you're about to get into so you can have a basic idea of what to expect? It helps when people are trying to explain the fight if you see the steps visually as well.
    Yeah that is cool, I mean I know for me while watching videos on things it sometimes doesn't register in my head till I either talk to someone or do it once or twice but very clear and detailed vids help sometimes though not with coil for me. Raidcall was the best thing for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruri View Post
    Why not watch a video
    It's really something that nothing can be done. Either watch videos, or just accept that when we're late to the scene, we can't expect others to wipe with us and repeat the same mistakes they already made a week ago. They've had their fun, but that's because they got in on the action soon enough. If we want to have the same fun, we'd have to find people who's also late.

    I was late to the BC raiding scene and now I simply cannot get even half a group together in our FC of close to 200 active members, to dive in blind (without reading up on anything). There only 2 people interested. There's nothing I can do about it. It did cool me down a lot, though, knowing that yeah, being in a FC doesn't mean you're buddies. Especially a medium to large FC, it's basically just a chat channel for most of our members it seems.

    But that's just the nature of MMOs. Late = play catch up. :3
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruri View Post
    This is the only part I can understand requiring you to do before joining a group. Why not watch a video of what you're about to get into so you can have a basic idea of what to expect? It helps when people are trying to explain the fight if you see the steps visually as well.
    Because this isn't my job, it's a game, it's supposed to be fun. I do my work at well, work, and I'm paying to have fun not to study so I don't disappoint someones egomaniacal gaming precondition.
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    There are practice run PF on my server. Their note explained very well: 1st timers welcome, dont expect to clean it but learn the fight/dodge, dont quit after the 1st try plz.
    You can join them or start your own.
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