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    I think the reason SMNs don't believe their class is overpowered in both PvE and PvP is because they're really just not doing anywhere near their potential damage. The endgame SMNs I see in full i90 show a complete disregard for any knowledge pertaining to their optimal rotations on specific fights. I mean, the guy I quoted posts a video of him doing Titan and it makes me cringe, and the majority of SMNs do even less damage than him and still win parses despite parsers not tracking the buffed increase (Raging Strikes/buffed INT) of DOTs, Shadowflare, or crits on your DOTs.

    Take a SMN who actually knows their stuff and they absolutely demolish all the endgame content without other jobs coming close, and virtually one-shot people in PvP - with or without i90 gear and potions. I don't expect many players to believe or understand this seeing as the chances of you playing with a great SMN are so small, but if you did have any experience, you wouldn't be here arguing against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LateRegi View Post
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    Could you seriously stop trying to compare PvP to Titan? Trying to make personal attacks against someone based around a battle so far removed from PvP is fairly pathetic.

    If summoners were truly so over powered we wouldn't constantly be seeing people posting screen shots and videos of nothing but i90 + Mega int potion monsters wiping the floor with people wearing pve and i55 pvp gear. Because the alternative is your average person with a mix of i55 and i70 gear up against people with similar setups doing high end damage but in no way just demolishing the field in seconds unless their team is organized, lucky and up against horrible opponents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlanckZero View Post
    If summoners were truly so over powered we wouldn't constantly be seeing people posting screen shots and videos of nothing but i90 + Mega int potion monsters wiping the floor with people wearing pve and i55 pvp gear. .
    Sure, the Producer himself will just admit it. Nbd
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongNu View Post
    The producer also asked you and your team not to jump if you read all of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlanckZero View Post
    Could you seriously stop trying to compare PvP to Titan? Trying to make personal attacks against someone based around a battle so far removed from PvP is fairly pathetic.

    If summoners were truly so over powered we wouldn't constantly be seeing people posting screen shots and videos of nothing but i90 + Mega int potion monsters wiping the floor with people wearing pve and i55 pvp gear. Because the alternative is your average person with a mix of i55 and i70 gear up against people with similar setups doing high end damage but in no way just demolishing the field in seconds unless their team is organized, lucky and up against horrible opponents.
    My argument was that if a person can't optimize their DPS in PvE, there's no chance they're doing things correctly in PvP. Nothing pathetic about my comparison at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LateRegi View Post
    My argument was that if a person can't optimize their DPS in PvE, there's no chance they're doing things correctly in PvP. Nothing pathetic about my comparison at all.
    It's actually a lot easier to do in PvP than PvE. PvP uses a small subset of SMN skill to achieve max burst damage. PvE uses almost 3 times as many.

    PvP.. you pop a bunch of buffs (int pot, raging, rouse, spur) then toss out some instant/off-GCD skills (ruin II, energy drain, enkindle, aetheric burst) to kill someone. This is like 1/4 of what you would normally have to utilize in PvE.

    As far as DPS optimization goes, PvP is very easy in comparison. Positioning/etc. is an entirely different conversation.
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