ARR often feels very contradictory in its design (long)

[KyoKunChan]

The game hasn't fully fleshed out, we barely have half of the total jobs meant for the game. Give it some time, sheesh.

"Give It Time."

1st thing I see someone say all the time lol They have had time and people told them what we would like and yet they pump out stuff we don't want. Yep, keep waiting.

[EvokerKeii]

"Give It Time."

1st thing I see someone say all the time lol They have had time and people told them what we would like and yet they pump out stuff we don't want. Yep, keep waiting.

There is one common thing I have seen with every single game that does it wrong.
Closed beta: "Give it time."
Open beta: "Just give it time."
Release: "Give it some time."
First bug patch: "Give it some more time."
First major content patch: "Need to give it time."

[Jubez187]

"Give It Time."

1st thing I see someone say all the time lol They have had time and people told them what we would like and yet they pump out stuff we don't want. Yep, keep waiting.

What came from 2.1 that we, as a community, DIDN'T want? It may not have been the most optimal content for the 1% of people in full i90, but I wouldn't say there was no content that we didn't want.

[Raestloz]

What came from 2.1 that we, as a community, DIDN'T want? It may not have been the most optimal content for the 1% of people in full i90, but I wouldn't say there was no content that we didn't want.

There are no new FATEs to spam. FATE students are sad

[Nadrojj]

What came from 2.1 that we, as a community, DIDN'T want? It may not have been the most optimal content for the 1% of people in full i90, but I wouldn't say there was no content that we didn't want.

Did the community want the same three primals some people struggled on to be rehashed with extreme mechanics instead of new HM Primals? Did we want two new HM versions of Copperbell and Haukke Manor? Dailies? A raid that currently drops lower ilvl gear than most of us are wearing? I for one did not want any of these. Give us new hard mode primal fights, new dungeons and higher tier gear instead of the main raid dropping ilvl80 stuff.

[Jubez187]

Give us new hard mode primal fights, new dungeons and higher tier gear instead of the main raid dropping ilvl80 stuff.

I wanted those things. What you want IS coming (Leviathan, Shiva [rumored]). SE had a lot on their plate with a buggy launch and whatnot. I don't think you understand the time it would have taken to:
1. Think, create, write the story for the new primals.
2. Create the quests leading up to the battle.
3. Design the primal's art, then RENDER it and its arena/battleground/stage/whatever.
4. Design the fight, think of the mechanics etc etc.
5. Code the fight into the game.
6. Write and record the music. (I'm a musician, this takes a while)
7. Playtest the fight, make sure all things are working as intended and that it's a good difficulty.

But you seem like a shiny-new-toy raider. So chances are you would rather have new primals right now at the expense of having 0 story. You want to log on, see "Leviathan is now available via the duty finder" run it, loot it, desert it. Then you know where you'll be? Right back on here begging for the next shiny-new-toy raid.

You just sound irrational, honestly. You're looking for Expansion-esque content out of the first major patch. I was actually wow'd at how much stuff they did in the patch. To read everything in the patch notes takes about 15 minutes.

[Nadrojj]

I wanted those things. What you want IS coming (Leviathan, Shiva [rumored]). SE had a lot on their plate with a buggy launch and whatnot. I don't think you understand the time it would have taken to:
1. Think, create, write the story for the new primals.
2. Create the quests leading up to the battle.
3. Design the primal's art, then RENDER it and its arena/battleground/stage/whatever.
4. Design the fight, think of the mechanics etc etc.
5. Code the fight into the game.
6. Write and record the music. (I'm a musician, this takes a while)
7. Playtest the fight, make sure all things are working as intended and that it's a good difficulty.

But you seem like a shiny-new-toy raider. So chances are you would rather have new primals right now at the expense of having 0 story. You want to log on, see "Leviathan is now available via the duty finder" run it, loot it, desert it. Then you know where you'll be? Right back on here begging for the next shiny-new-toy raid.

You just sound irrational, honestly. You're looking for Expansion-esque content out of the first major patch. I was actually wow'd at how much stuff they did in the patch. To read everything in the patch notes takes about 15 minutes.

I love assumptions. Sweeping generalizations after reading two of my posts about my playstyle is exactly what I expect from this board. Carry on champ. Continue to be WoW'd (see what I did there?) at how much stuff they did this patch and happily pay your monthly fee. I believe in SE but I'm disappointed to say the least with 2.1.

I've contributed plenty to this conversation if you read the whole thread, what ideas are you bringing to the table to make the game better? Or are you just here to play mr super cool guy white knight?