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  1. #91
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    Kantide's Avatar
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    Momo Snugglebites
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    Goblin
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    Arcanist Lv 81
    I think what the OP is getting at is that by having zones you loose the feeling of "Wow I have this huge world to explore". And TBH, he is right. If this were a perfect world, and 1.0 didn't have copy pasta, then the world would feel far superior to ARRs world not just in size but in scope. (not counting content availability)

    In 1.0, I felt that the world itself (for all its shortcomings) was a much larger place and me a smaller part in that world. There was danger (level 93 peistes) and I had to be more careful in traveling. It gave you a similar feel as your first trip to Jeuno in XI.

    However in ARR I am the top of the foodchain, can teleport anywhere and can ride my chocobo from say, Ul'dah to Gridania in about 1/3 the time it took in 1.23.

    Now, if you made it so that Behemoth spawned in random zone and started killing people... we could talk.
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  2. #92
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    remidi's Avatar
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    Remi Dian
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Because 1.0 was possibly the worst video game I have ever played in my life. Amazon let me return it for being defective.....

    Get quest from crystal. Come back to crystal. SO MUCH FUN!
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  3. #93
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sepix View Post
    You all forgot the worst thing about 1.0 zones. The hidden loading screens. Remember the canyons between the big chunks of land? Or how about the endless bridge out of Limsa Lominsa. That wasn't there to make it feel massive that was there to stall your character long enough to stream in the next zone. I rather have a 2 sec loading screen than running on that bridge for 2 solid minutes for no reason.
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    I'm sure i have miss some.
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    Last edited by Felis; 01-07-2014 at 02:02 AM.

  4. #94
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    Adelfia Balfegar
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    Ragnarok
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sepix View Post
    You all forgot the worst thing about 1.0 zones. The hidden loading screens. Remember the canyons between the big chunks of land? Or how about the endless bridge out of Limsa Lominsa. That wasn't there to make it feel massive that was there to stall your character long enough to stream in the next zone. I rather have a 2 sec loading screen than running on that bridge for 2 solid minutes for no reason.
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  5. #95
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 90
    FFXIV ARR you can at least run somewhere without it being a majority of your gameplay.

    I remember thinking how great running around to all the cutscenes for the story would be - then after running through the same copy-paste hallway multiple times through the same copy-paste scenery over and over just to reach another area full of copy-paste same hallways and copy-paste scenery to reach the NPC I was looking for - to be given a few lines of dialog and told to turn around and go back. All the quests had you running from nation to nation over and over and over and over just for a 5 minute cutscene to tell you to turn around and run back. You'd have spent days just running to complete a single quest that consisted of talking to about 5 NPCs (Ul'dah->Grid->Ul'dah->Limsa->Grid) and your reward was maybe one or two 5 minute cutscenes a little gil and more running! The "adventure" died off when you realized that if you just rotated the map in your head 90 degrees it was the same area you'd already explored 2 minutes ago, or two hours ago, or two days ago.

    You never - ever - wasted a teleport because it was on a timer and consumed a resource (I can't remember the name anymore) that would refill so very slowly - you had to beat Ifrit or Garuda or otherwise take part in monotonous escort missions that were almost always being farmed and full just to use teleportation regularly!
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    Last edited by Dhex; 01-07-2014 at 02:40 AM.

  6. #96
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    Jeyza Re
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Because they wanted more people to be able to play the game. Version 1.0 was extremely rough on people's machines.

    Also, Copy Pasta'd:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA7GGnyNwEs
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  7. #97
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Coeurl
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    Wish people would stop acting like copy-pasted tunnel terrain is the only alternative to the... tunnel terrain we already have. >_> Even TERA's zones were more open and interactable than XIV's, and that game is utter crap; Rift's zones as well provide tons of places to wander around in. In XIV, there is literally nothing beyond the areas you are sent to quest in, and everything is tiny pockets connected by narrow bridges. It may be pretty, but it sure as hell is frustrating and claustrophobic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    We voted for this, we asked for this, we got it. And you're complaining? There's way too much complaining over something we wanted.
    Your "we" does not describe anyone who did not play in 1.0, so kindly don't speak for me when saying that "we" wanted this.
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    Last edited by Naunet; 01-07-2014 at 03:54 AM.

  8. #98
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    Yeah, I have a gaming laptop that only a bit more than a year old, couldn't play 1.0 on anything higher the Medium settings. But that's not the point here. The zones were changed because we asked for it. Before the end of 1.0 Yoshida put up a poll over whether we wanted to keep the large, bland zones or go with smaller, more vibrant zones. It was practically unanimous for the latter. We voted for this, we asked for this, we got it. And you're complaining? There's way too much complaining over something we wanted.
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  9. #99
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    Kenshiro Joestar
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Yeah, I have a gaming laptop that only a bit more than a year old, couldn't play 1.0 on anything higher the Medium settings. But that's not the point here. The zones were changed because we asked for it. Before the end of 1.0 Yoshida put up a poll over whether we wanted to keep the large, bland zones or go with smaller, more vibrant zones. It was practically unanimous for the latter. We voted for this, we asked for this, we got it. And you're complaining? There's way too much complaining over something we wanted.
    Maybe the people complaining didn't vote in favor of the change? I didn't vote for smaller zones, that's for sure. Or maybe they didn't play version 1.0 and just come up with this feel by themselves, but back then they couldn't vote.
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  10. #100
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    Ulanan Ulan
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    -snip-

    If I take your word for it, then it was a false dichotomy made by the developer, by asking the players to choose between a terrible choice and a somewhat okay choice. Of course everyone would pick the somewhat okay choice over the obviously poor one. That poll was meaningless, its only purpose to give the developers an excuse for what they did. "Oh, but we ASKED you and you CHOSE this!" No, we did not you poisonous fool. You gave "us" two false choices and "we" choose the least bad. That does NOT mean this is how things should have been made or that it was the right choice. It only means the developer felt like those were the only two options.
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