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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-Xero View Post
    There's a difference between not being "good enough" and not being good AT ALL. I don't care what you or anyone else says, if you're wasting my and the other two-six people's time in a group by not being able to perform your basic job duties, ESPECIALLY at Level 50, then you are "harassing" us. You're terribleness and thus wasting of our time is annoying and bothersome which is included in the "Queen's English" definition of the word harass. Harass: (1): to annoy persistently (2): to create an unpleasant situation by uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical conduct. I trimmed out the irrelevant (to this situation) parts of the second portion of the definition.

    It's not like I vote out first timers, "under-geared" players, players that make a mistake or two or anything like that. I'll gladly explain every minute detail of a dungeon, raid, boss etc. but when it gets down to it, I can't play your job for you. And if you can't play your job and are unwilling to voluntarily leave, then myself and the others in the group have every right to vote you out and find someone else that can play your job.


    Queen Bey is not amused at your attempt to warp her words. That is nowhere near the accepted definition of the word "harass," not the Queen's nor Square-Enix's. If you initiate unjustified vote dismissals against other players because you don't like their playing style you are harassing them, your level of giving a care is inconsequential. It's not against the rules to be bad, it is against the rules to be a urine ejector. If you would like to impose limits on who can and cannot play in your presence, use party finder. If you're unable to find enough people willing to put up with you when they can see you coming, perhaps you have bigger problems.
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    Last edited by Scarletyoshi; 01-06-2014 at 09:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarletyoshi View Post
    That is nowhere near the accepted definition of the word "harass," not the Queen's nor Square-Enix's. If you would like to impose limits on who can and cannot play in your presence, use party finder.
    How is that nowhere near the "accepted definition" when it came straight from Merriam-Webster? Maybe terrible people should use the Party Finder to find people that will be accepting of their complete and utter ineptitude? I mean, that's what it's there for right, to find like-minded individuals? Oh and being terrible isn't a "play style"... it's just being terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-Xero View Post
    How is that nowhere near the "accepted definition" when it came straight from Merriam-Webster? Maybe terrible people should use the Party Finder to find people that will be accepting of their complete and utter ineptitude? I mean, that's what it's there for right, to find like-minded individuals? Oh and being terrible isn't a "play style"... it's just being terrible.
    The idea that someone not being as good at something as you think they should be constitutes harassment is nowhere near the accepted definition of harassment. Nor does "being terrible" constitute harassment, unless that terribleness results from initiating unjustified vote dismiss actions against other players for reasons that are not afk, dc, harassment, or cheating.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachew View Post
    There is no way to tell if it is on purpose or not, so its safe to assume that if he keeps being bad he/she is harassing your group and should be evicted. I'm pretty sure getting rid of someone dragging down the group is "Justified".
    Not according to the quite clear definition outlined in the patch notes explaining this feature, Queen's english and everything. Her Royal Majesty Beyoncé is at the top of her field, if she had meant these words to mean what you want them to, she'd have thought of it herself.
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    Last edited by Scarletyoshi; 01-06-2014 at 01:13 PM.

    "We're all different. But there's something kind of fantastic about that isn't there?"
    "I'm tired of being polite about something that matters so much" ~ Joss Whedon
    "The person who says that the only way to please them is to restrict options for others is, if you ask me, the onewho deserves it least." ~ David Gaider
    "Sorry for the inconvenience, we're trying to change the world." ~ The Protester