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  1. #1
    Player
    Squa's Avatar
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    Square Pusher
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    Kicked from Duty Roulette as a tank

    So, I figure I would do my service as a tank and join the high lvl Roulette, and also get extra myth tomes for the day to help me cap. So, it popped AK, the MNK was good had myth gear, healer was average about 3000 HP, and the SMN was very newb at 2500 health.


    So we run through, clear first boss and trash fine, no wipes ever. Clear to Demon Wall, still no wipes, nothing bad said in chat, very polite.

    So the first attempt, Demon Wall, I was parsing, and the MNK did 47% damage, me (Warrior tank) did 33% damage, and the SMN did 20% damage. Near the end of the fight, the bees spawned, and I picked up aggro on all of them, but the healer died to the bee aoe/boss mechanic slow. Then SMN died also from getting hit by the black ground, so me and the MNK were the only ones left and I tanked the bees, popped all my CD's then went to focus the wall, and we got it to about 5% but died.

    OK, fine, nothing said in chat, no disrespect, I run back and the SMN has aggrod a pack of mobs on the way back, he summoned Titan egi and I barely got there in time to pull aggro and save him.

    Second attempt at Demon Wall, the SMN falls off the cliff from repel (it may be his first time here), the bees spawn and I pick up aggro again immediately (so the healer doesn't have it), and this time I focus on the bees but we quickly die as the healer has a slow debuff and bee aoe is chaotic, I am the last person standing again. On that second attempt, the MNK did 50% of damage, I did 28% and the SMN did 22% (before he fell).

    I never commented on anything in chat much, or insulted anyone, berated anyone or even really said anything to call anyone a noob.

    Even though I am 8400 HP party/food buffed warrior, I was just trying to get my daily roulette done and definitely did not bring an attitude into the dungeon. Then it hits me "you have been kicked from the party."


    Really? I never died to boss mechanics, was last one standing both attempts, did good DPS, kept aggro on bees, and never berated or criticized anyone, but somehow I got a kick?

    This is really a discouraging thing that I just wasted almost 30 minutes and now can't even get my daily roulette credit. Is anything going to happen to this people? I put in a report to the support tab, but how can they even determine if the kick was justified? Just from chat logs or something, I really doubt that anything will happen from these people who abuse the kick, since its almost impossible to prove unless a GM is standing there watching. This is a bad environment, and I was one of the people who thought there should be a kick feature since I had people D/C during dungeons and its really a hassle with 3 people and someone just disconnected taking up a slot. But this implementation seems really bad and disappointing ...


    /rant
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  2. #2
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    Aeryn Zael
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    Adamantoise
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    Unfortunately, that's how terrible people make themselves feel better. Putting the blame on anyone but themselves to try saving face.
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    Veera Aurora
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    Omega
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    if u havent used defiance in that fight u guys could win

    u dont need defiance in that fight btw not with a weakened demon wall unlike he was in 2.0

    but the kick i believe wasnt for being bad

    it was used so ppl quit without 30 mins DF penalty

    i always doing it with runs that got no future tell ppl kick me so we all quit without penalty
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    N'hara Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon View Post
    if u havent used defiance in that fight u guys could win

    u dont need defiance in that fight btw not with a weakened demon wall unlike he was in 2.0

    but the kick i believe wasnt for being bad

    it was used so ppl quit without 30 mins DF penalty

    i always doing it with runs that got no future tell ppl kick me so we all quit without penalty
    If that was the intent, it was really dickish of whoever initiated the vote to not say a single thing about it before doing it.
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon View Post
    it was used so ppl quit without 30 mins DF penalty
    Discussing this beforehand would have been a grand idea assuming the story above is true.
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Ravana
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    Did you make a comment about the SMN, by any chance?
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  7. #7
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    Kazek Natasch
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    Mateus
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    Monk Lv 80
    Mmmmm.. you know... in some ways i really feel bad for people getting kicked. In the other light I just think about those threads before the kick feature coming out saying it would be a horrible idea and just say "I told you so."

    Oh well! *shrugs*
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    Player flamds1's Avatar
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    Arik Gesi
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 52
    should have kicked the monk for not lbing the wall at 5% if there were only two of you left.
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    Yes the kick was purely to dodge the 30 min debuff, not because of anything towards you as a tank, it was probably the mnk that initiated it, all myth'd n out n shit. The smn and heals dont sound like they have enslaved through dungeons enough to generate that type of motive.
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    Square Pusher
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    Did you make a comment about the SMN, by any chance?
    never, I noticed he was a bit new, but I never said much of anything, the healer however was kind of getting on the SMN case, "how can you die to that?" "...." "..." but I was really a neutral party, I understand if you criticize people it can make them play worse, and one of my first characters was SMN in AK, and I was a noob too. I certainly didn't look down on him at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by flamds1 View Post
    should have kicked the monk for not lbing the wall at 5% if there were only two of you left.
    he did LB the wall (it was at 5% after his LB) I left that part out just because I forgot to add it in
    Quote Originally Posted by Narcissus View Post
    Yes the kick was purely to dodge the 30 min debuff, not because of anything towards you as a tank, it was probably the mnk that initiated it, all myth'd n out n shit. The smn and heals dont sound like they have enslaved through dungeons enough to generate that type of motive.
    This is quite possible it. Although I have to wonder why (whoever) chose me, since I certainly was doing my share of the performance I believe.. Also I think it is possible they meant to kick the SMN, (the healer was on his case a lot), and misclicked my name, then everyone just agreed without even thinking to pass it. I am just confused and a little put off by the situation, but I wont judge all runs, this maybe a rare occurance, so I certainly am not giving up on Roulettes (yet!).

    Also I should add I have never initiated or agreed to kick anyone in anything, unless they were disconnected/afk
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