How did the community become this toxic?

[HumsterMKX]

Ugh, the community is not toxic because people are selling stuff ._. gesh

I just started doing my first relic today and everyone that helped me, every single person, were people that did not need it. They were all random people that just wanted to help.

Sounds like a real toxic community to me /sarcasm.

Cause you are a cute pink haired Lalafell... if you where a big fat pink haired Roe, chances are you will be beaten up and fed to the Froggies outside Revenant Toll.

[Eidolon]

A part of me feels it is almost the atmosphere of endgame that is jading people, more than it is doing anything else. Permit me to explain -

At 2.0's launch, people leveled, had fun, explored the world, because everyone was leveling. Sure, you had a few min/maxers who rushed to level 50 because they wanted to start getting their 300 myth tomes a week, but I feel those were in the minority, and to them, that was their way of playing and having fun.


But as more of our community has hit 50, it's becomming less about being level 50, and more about 'capping for the week' and completing things as fast/efficiently as possible. You can see this predominately in the way speed runs were constantly done, and that was where a lot of the vile originally seems to have come from.

This feels more like it's because the end-game encourages speed more the companionship/community (in my humble opinion.) Sure, othergames have end-game, but in games like RIFT - I never felt a need to 'speed run' anything. Sure, you had strategies for bosses, and sure, you had little tricks to skip some portions - but not once did I feel forced/rushed to max out all my character's gear sets "For the week." I've not seen this phenomena of 'wanting to finish content for the week.' that seems to permeate FFXIV's system.

[Giyari]

Community would be better if people would be held accountable for kicking people from groups, other then AFK and being a troublemaker.

Punishment would have to be severe, because if it's just a slap on the wrist, people would just shrug it off.

As it is new players are screwed out of most end game activities.

[nitewing]

just from my point of view but other than a few bad apples i'm not seeing this toxic community. i'm on midgard btw, could be just me but 90 percent of the parties i've joined the people are fun to play with.

[SummonerSenah]

I think that a lot of toxic people are probably also that way irl. It really has nothing to do with the game at all. Some people are just that nasty and no changes to the game will fix that. Then there are the people that believe the relative anonymity of the internet makes it so they aren't accountable. If you check any Youtube comments, you'll see examples of that.

tl ; dr It has more to do with people just being that way than with it being because of the game, IMO

[indira]

theres no reason to need people in this game you rely on NPC's for everything.

[Sylvari]

It's all eye of the beholder.

Love it!

I choose to ignore the rude and inpatient players and help the ones that deserve it. I've had limited contact with rude ppl thru my method of playing and enjoyed some nice conversations too.

[AldricBranchais]

Community is toxic because people want to sell things? Okay. If that's a toxic community to you, I'm curious how you would react from an everyday match in League of Legends.

[Colt47]

The toxicity of the community is a result of the games design. The journey to 50 is a pleasantly designed jog that has it's rough moments, but fights are fair and the difficulty is well scaled. End game is tuned to be a meat grinder in an attempt to pad content out just to keep people playing, and as a result the community, which wants to complete the game, is forced into tight nit militaristic groups to be able to complete the content. The end game content probably makes up less then 5% of the game, yet takes up just as much time to progress through as the rest of it unless someone is using strategy guides. Even then it is a trial of how much a persons nerves can take.

[CYoung187]

Hard to view people selling things as toxic. Housing created that. You expect an FC to raise those outragous prices by selling crafts/materials to nobody buying? You want toxic join a CT run. Everyone runs their mouth on each other, people leaving instantly after getting their loot. My favorite feature is by faw low level duty roulette, I am having much more fun playing with the "noobs" then the i90 elitist pricks who want to run their mouth at everyone because "look at my gear bro"