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  1. #31
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    vp_cmc's Avatar
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    Tee Hee
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    Cerberus
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Klandestineone View Post
    ''Ability'' can be provoke or tomahawk throw for warrior.
    Please tell your friend not to use provoke for initial pull (lots of tanks do this). With provoke tank gains exactly ONE point of enmity and will loose aggro with first DoT. (And healers prefer to put DoTs before mobs started to hit tank, because as they started, they have other things to do - heal)
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  2. #32
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    Klandestineone's Avatar
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    Bento Box
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Point taken but he knows this and follows up immediately. I don't know if he's had an issue with losing aggro over it, but he lets his team know in the beginning not to attack (or whatever) until he does an enmity move after the initial provoke. I also run with him so I know what to look for.
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  3. #33
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    Arkista's Avatar
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by vp_cmc View Post
    Please tell your friend not to use provoke for initial pull (lots of tanks do this). With provoke tank gains exactly ONE point of enmity and will loose aggro with first DoT. (And healers prefer to put DoTs before mobs started to hit tank, because as they started, they have other things to do - heal)
    This happened to me last week in a Stone Vigil party. I was on BRD and every time he pulled I got hate chalked it up to him being new. Get to the end and I seen he was using Provoke to pull I was like omg lol so I told him how to pull and hold hate on PLD and he did much better. So in Short never pull mobs with Provoke unless your in AK and getting that succubus.
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  4. #34
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    Kinseykinz's Avatar
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    Isagael Rose
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    Sagittarius
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by mindful View Post
    1st: on PS3 we got to go through two loading screens to skip the cutscenes. Takes about 30's seconds. Most of us are not using a solid state drive on there PS3 with the PS4 launching not worth it.

    2nd: Ps3 users do not have the same UI as PC so, We need to do the RB,select the set then use then RB back holding the right trigger activate the ability and slower, or have the locked trigger just as slow. We do not got the options to see four sets at once and use the D-Pad up and down to select the Sets with the controller.

    3rd: When were in a animation motion we do not move fast enough and If we guess what we see is just as slower.

    Sure there more from other vets on PS3 . But can you give us a break.

    If you don't want people to say 'PC only' then YOU have to prove you can work around your system to not cause the average party issues. No one cares what you play on/how you control your character. What they DO care about is:
    1. Do you make battles harder on me?
    2. Are you a liability?
    3. Can I easily communicate with you?
    4. Can you easily communicate with me?

    That said, directly responding to your points:

    -The loading CS's stuff...nothing to worry about.
    -But asking people to 'be patient..I have to push more buttons' ....well you have to learn to do that faster. PC users afterall, can choose to use gamepads too without issue (as can many PS3 users). So the issue isn't the PS3...it's the user. If you are reacting too slow to content, then you need to learn to react faster. This isn't me being mean. It's the truth. And yes, PC users can choose to have basically the same layout. (I do agree that it can be more clunky...but your issue to overcome, not mine)
    -Again, you need to somehow figure out how to work with your rig's limitations in order to compensate for Animation Lock/lag etc. I get not wanting to be discriminated against simply due to your machine...but if you keep dying to the SAME thing, even if it's because you can't see it...how am I supposed to fix that? I can't do your job plus mine. And this again, is not a PS3 only issue. Plenty of people using both PC and PS3, with laggy internet or long pings, have to either use tools to make their ping better and lag less or pre-move before they see the action on their screen. Is it ideal? No. But it is what it is. And unless SE can fix it, it's going to be an issue for you. So you have to get better.

    But going on the forums, making posts like this...where you basically say 'don't blame me, blame my machine' And don't discriminate against me even though I'm admitting I make you work harder...well, that's not going to help lessen the gap or change PC players opinions. What DOES help, is proving people wrong. Post a video of PS3 players/gamepad users besting Titan Ex, or Turn 5. Or... be in a FC like mine that has both users who all are able to clear the same things. If my FC mates can play on the PS3's and clear all the content as well as the PC players, why can't you? (Yes I know, I sound hard on you...but that is because you are asking for pity where you deserve none...if people are picking on you...prove them wrong, don't whine and say...but guys, its hard)
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  5. #35
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    meh, PS4 should run smoothly if SE have optimized it
    Playing on PS3 is fine, things just show up slightly later, NPC's, some fate enemies, etc.
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  6. #36
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    JPPILIP's Avatar
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    Roric Slaven
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    If your having trouble marking on ps3 there is an option to add another cross bar by pressing r2&l2 in certain orders this will give you 16 more abilities real quick you just have to put the on in you setting and set them up. As a tank it comes in handy because for me to mark all I do is press L2-R2 and all the marks I need are there
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  7. #37
    Player MurakumoMillennium's Avatar
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    Murakumo Millennium
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    Leviathan
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    Miner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan061111 View Post
    At the end of the day an average to good ps3 player is better than a bad to average PC player. Skill means mote than the system you play on.
    At the end of the day that same PS3 player will be even better on a PC.

    Comparing a good PS3 player to a bad PC player doesn't magically make your old outdated bad hardware good.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    Playing on PS3 is fine, things just show up slightly later, NPC's, some fate enemies, etc.
    Including things on the ground that do 100% avoidable damage, instant kill mechanics, etc.
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    Last edited by MurakumoMillennium; 01-05-2014 at 07:22 PM.

  8. #38
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    Krystalynn's Avatar
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    Krysta Lynn
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by mindful View Post
    Sure there more from other vets on PS3 . But can you give us a break.
    Why should we? The fact the game is on your console is why this game was watered down. Why we have zone borders. Why we lost belts, high level textures. Why zones are the smallest among modern mmos. Because they tried to fit a game like FFXIV on a console with 256mb of video ram. No breaks for you. Everywhere I look my game bleeds because you wanted to play a modern mmo as beautiful was FFXIV 1.0 on a console I could buy for 99 bucks on craigslist. Mash the start button more.

    This game used to be a beautiful, wide open world. I used to be able to walk down the bridge of Limsa Lominsa and explore the city without loading. There was no such thing as Eastern Thanalan, Western Thanalan, Northern Thanalan and Southern Thanalan. It was just Thanalan.

    This was its theme. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g00knvH5Oks

    When Ishgard comes out, not a single one of us will have the pleasure of riding down that long bridge over the clouds.
    We get a portal and a teleport thanks to you. I honestly don't care. It was a mistake to put this on the PS3, and I wish you guys would whine more about it so Squaresoft realizes it just the same. They could have waited for PS4 and released this in 2014, and had a PC and Console title with similar and competetive processing power, but instead weakened the entire game for the 200 thousand players forcing them to release it on an EIGHT YEAR OLD SYSTEM. I'm glad things are bad on it. They should be.

    Could you imagine how awesome this game would have been if PS3 wasn't in the equation? The size of the zones? The beauty in the textures? Sad part is, YEARS from now, even brand new content has to be released that the PS3 can handle because you're the lowest common denominator! Our game is outdated from the getgo, thanks to you. You should be giving us a break.
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    Last edited by Krystalynn; 01-05-2014 at 07:32 PM.

  9. #39
    Player Yahavage's Avatar
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    Yahavage Silvanesti
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Krystalynn View Post
    This game used to be a beautiful, wide open world. I used to be able to walk down the bridge of Limsa Lominsa and explore the city without loading. There was no such thing as Eastern Thanalan, Western Thanalan, Northern Thanalan and Southern Thanalan. It was just Thanalan.

    Mmmm dat copy and paste landscape. Thanalan never used to be broken up and it all looked the same! It used to be wonderful running 10minutes across the zone and it didn't change in the slightest!

    I prefer the newer landscapes. What I miss are the textures, they used to be so pretty but are a tad garish now.

    I don't think I'll hold it against ps3 users though ^^;
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  10. #40
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    Crimson-Falcon's Avatar
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    Veera Aurora
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    Omega
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by HumsterMKX View Post
    *Looks at thread with Horrifying eyes*

    A CONSOLE USER! GET HIM!!!

    *throws stones*


    Well, not much of a choice. Content is content and passing and failing is just a fine line. The content in FFXIV is unforgiving to PS3 players and lower end PC users.
    unforgiving u say?

    i have beaten all 3 primals and T1 - T4 on PS3

    can u tell me which is the unforgiving?

    the only 2 things that are unforgiving are FATEs & lagg

    FATEs yea PS3 limitation

    but lagg?

    more like servers limitation as even PC ppl complain about it

    mistaken in something?
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