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    Player LongNu's Avatar
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    Longnu Era
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 50

    Newbie PvPers aren't gonna' be having fun down the line...

    As the thread title says. Anyone wishing to get their feet wet in the PvP scene in let's say about 2 months or so (Maybe even less) are going to have a very painful time grinding against players with decked out 90 gear.

    The suggestive fix would be a matchmaking system, but I'm sure there are other ideas that may be just as good or better.
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    Eriatarka12's Avatar
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    Kipling Pryderi
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    This happens in every MMO with PvP gear after the initial rush. That's why those who get in on it early have the advantage, and why many push themselves to keep up just because they know this is coming eventually.
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    Lorde Doome
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    Ultros
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Eriatarka12 View Post
    This happens in every MMO with PvP gear after the initial rush. That's why those who get in on it early have the advantage, and why many push themselves to keep up just because they know this is coming eventually.
    Pretty much. The prospect of queuing up for PVP as a healer without the critical pvp skills needed to survive, against fully geared opponents with an HP pool of your standard turn 5 coil group, WITH added 30%~ damage and mitigation, sounded like complete and utter garbage. So I geared myself up early and learned the ropes while matches weren't as laughably unbalanced. You could argue that players can queue up for level 30/40 matches until they're geared, but they won't properly learn how to play their character in PVP due to the smaller skillset. Shit, at level 30, a scholar won't even have a debuff removal skill, which is super important for clearing healing and MS debuffs.
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    Last edited by docbon; 12-30-2013 at 06:37 AM.

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    Mitski Zahard
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    It's essentially a lose/lose situation. If they don't introduce some type of rank/elo system, it will be extremely frustrating for new players. If they do introduce a matchmaking system, the high rated players will have insufferable queue times.
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    Omega Venom
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    Cerberus
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    Archer Lv 72
    I too get fedup of facing PVP 70 GEARED when I am in that crafted garb.
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    Rawkzor's Avatar
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    Skye Stormsire
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 50
    That's why people are cashing in on the SCH/BLM/SMN team queues, and abusing the jumping issue while they can. Any early advantage so they can rush to rank 30 and start farming ilvl90 PvP gear, and hold the advantage later for easy wins against undergeared players.
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    Fyreus's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Fyreus Hunter
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    To be honest it's hard to tell how to do this properly without resorting to adding in a battlegrounds to mix and match skills imho.
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    My prediction: SE will keep war amazingly devastating in PvP so later down the line you must do lolPvE to get PvP stuff... and that will fix the 'lack of tank' issues. /pets cat.

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    Hulk_Smash's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Axe Erudite
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    All i gotta say is, I like Fresh Meat. If the noobs wanna get into pvp, let them do the lvl 30 and 40. if they step into lvl 50 wolves den, im gonna eat em up.
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    Twinlance's Avatar
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    Masters Riot
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 50
    One of the main issues I have noticed is the giant leap between winning and losing as far as points rewarded. If playing matches is the only way to get geared up the reward needs to be the same win or lose. Otherwise people who win too often not only will be better players but better geared. I'm a little surprised with all the stuff they added to gear for PvE they made such an over site in PvP.
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    Dreadlock Rasta
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    Goblin
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    Carpenter Lv 80
    Can't wait for all the try hards to post PVP montage videos to "let the bodies hit the floor" while playing against rank 1-10 people with none of the abilities unlocked while also queuing 3 person groups.

    Gateing PVP through those abilities was the stupidest thing SE could have done to get people interested in PVP later.
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