Look what just happened in Duty !

[Billie21]

I once registered into DF for Garuda NM with a friend who needed to kill her.

We ended up with a full first timer team. I was the only one who had already killed her (or even fought her).

Nobody quit. We wiped countless times. The team improved, little bit by little bit. Still, we ended up using all of the 90 minutes the fight allowed, and by that time, she was down to like 5-10%.

So yeah, maybe members of this team weren't the best players in the world (I know I'm not). Maybe some better players would have figure the fight faster, some better geared players, or some more experienced players, would have killed her.

But in the end, no one quit, everybody tried their best, we all learned something (including me, because I never did the fight as another class as the one I was playinng, so I couldn't give them all tips on everything).
And we didn't have a bad time.
Easy time? Nope. But bad? Certainly not.

Those weren't griefers. They had the right to play, learn, fight something that was a new challenge to them, trying to overcome it together.


If any of those people had ended up in an otherwise more experienced team, made of 3 other well geared players who already knew how to win the fight, they might have been dragging the whole team down.
You don't get to choose who you end up with in the DF.

Did they deserved to be kicked for it? Certainly not.

Not up to my standards. The dungeons standards. I have very basic standards.

I can't really tell others how to be better at tanking, since I haven't leveled up mine. So can't give advice there, but I help as best I can with boss mechanics and such.

But when you have a tank that can't keep up enough enmity for the heals he needs. And after doing a boss 12+ times. Then came the fact that us DPS had to hold back so much that we wouldn't have been able to kill it in time. Talking about AK and the dragon here.

Pillars would have been gone even if we made it that far, but usually the dragon went for the healer. Was actually impossible to kill the dragon with that tank. Maybe if the healer was geared better, one of us DPS could tank it while killing it as I have heard happening.

And then you also talked about the golden words, "listen and learned". Yes, most people do that. But you will also have people who say, "don't tell me how to play". Or just plain stay silent.

Anyway, if you after everything still knowingly holding back 3 others from completing the dungeon, then you are rude to them.



You aren't new to your job at level 50.

As someone pointed out, you are free to leave if you don't want to play with the people you end up with in DF.
But you are not free to kick them out for this reason (however right you might be).



If there are so many people who think kicking someone out because he's not good enough is OK and should be allowed, then ask SE to add it as a reason in their list.
You are entilted to feel this way (however much I disagree with it). But it currently ISN'T one of the reasons why SE gave us the kick feature.