Tanking Titan HM

[blowfin]

Says the guy who needs to outgear content by 20 item levels to win.

I don't need to do anything of the sort, but i'm not opening up a Party Finder group to people 15 levels below me. Sorry but that's inviting failure in more ways than one, and it's not the purpose of PF. That's what DF is for, if I wanted to help people like that I'd go to DF. I wanted to clear Titan in the most efficient way possible and you're telling me I'm a bad player? That my friend, is the definition of a scrub. Everyone should play the game the way you see fit.

For the record I helped an FC member clear Titan HM a couple of days ago (in the DF, with two tanks), so you can take any dimwitted theories you have about "overgearing" and "gaming the system" and put them in your pipe for a hearty smoke.

You're gaming the system to make it easier

It's called strategy. Are you suggesting that we all have to battle Titan at the minimum required level with 2 tanks to clear it "legitimately"? Because that's what it sounds like.

What the hell do you expect ilvl73 to be? You say someone sets a limit of 73, but 72 is OK because what, they geared in i70 gear?

No I'm saying any person with a semblance of intelligence would ask the party leader if it was OK to join if they were a level or two below the requirement. I've lowered the cap to fit people in several times, all it takes is a polite /tell.

[Gamemako]

I don't need to do anything of the sort

Clearly you do, or you wouldn't be hammering out an unnecessary requirement. Do you set up Ifrit HM requirements of ilvl80 because you're geared in ilvl80? No, you don't.

Sorry but that's inviting failure in more ways than one, and it's not the purpose of PF.

Right, the purpose of the PF is so you can find people to carry you. Oh, wait, it isn't. The purpose of the PF is to promote server community and offer a party builder for content that has no DF, like Hydra and BC.

I wanted to clear Titan in the most efficient way possible and you're telling me I'm a bad player? That my friend, is the definition of a scrub.

Pretty sure asking a bunch of overgeared players to carry you is a clear indication that you're a bad player.

It's called strategy.

You might as well say bringing two PLD in 2.0 was a "strategy", because you were totally losing something by not taking a WAR. No, you're taking a non-standard party because it's better due to a glaring design oversight. There's no strategy involved, unless you consider picking an ilvl90 over ilvl10 weapon to be a strategy.

No I'm saying any person with a semblance of intelligence would ask the party leader if it was OK to join if they were a level or two below the requirement. I've lowered the cap to fit people in several times, all it takes is a polite /tell.

Oh, right, you put up an ilvl73 requirement totally knowing what it was and then let in everybody below it because you realized that your requirement is absolutely idiotic. Or maybe you just didn't think the slightest about what ilvl73 even means. Certainly the latter.

[Raffounz]

Titan HM was the most annoing fight ever as a tank...

[blowfin]

Oh, right, you put up an ilvl73 requirement

I never said anything about setting up a lvl 73 Titan HM.

When I cleared it I set it near my level, I think it was around 70 at the time. My WAR dinged into i66 when I hit 50. Are you implying I set the level requirement above my own level? Not the case sorry.

As I said, the party filled quickly, we got the job done. I assume a lot of people were working on Relics for their Alt jobs just like me. Not asking anyone to carry my ass. Try again.

[MirielleLavandre]

Just want to say thanks again for all the replies. I actually beat Titan awhile ago, but continue to read this thread to pick up additional tips to help me as I help tank this for my LS mates. We usually never use the party finder, and never the DF, to make our 'real' try Titan groups. For our practice runs, DF is fine but we prefer PF. I don't like dictating ilvl for the fight so I don't use PF, and it is so much easier to just get 8 people from our LS or various FCs who know the fight. We never carry anyone, in the sense that we take people there to practice until they learn the fight, and then go with a FC/LS group for the real deal.

Thanks again for the tips. Since I've upgraded to Holy Shield Zenith I'm sitting at around 6k HP, so I usually just eat that one bomb...I know, I should move but was traumatized during my learning phase by the 2 bombs to the face...

[blowfin]

I don't like dictating ilvl for the fight so I don't use PF, and it is so much easier to just get 8 people from our LS or various FCs who know the fight. We never carry anyone, in the sense that we take people there to practice until they learn the fight, and then go with a FC/LS group for the real deal.

A lot of people don't have that luxury of still-healthy FC's and LS's. In the last month our FC has lost around 90% of it's members to other games, cancelled subs, and other FC's. It's very, very difficult to find decent groups for end game content for me at the moment. This week, I've been stuck at T4 since Tuesday night, and I've had about one successful Garuda EX run out of 10. Being able to set up a group in PF, with an iLvl set so i'm not going to get people working on their first relic, is a good mechanism to remove the stress that comes with groups that constantly fail. If anything, being able to run a fight like that when I want to keeps me subscribed. Because without that mechanism, progression is that much more difficult, bordering on being an exercise in utter futility.

[JonBigwood]

Hi, I agree until after the heart is dead, the tank does not have much to do except avoid blunders such as falling off the edge or forgetting to put shield oath (PLD) after a wipe or at the start.
After the heart is dead, there is responsibility, since even if the group is good enough the tank can cause or avoid a wipe.
Somebody already said it: Flash before every mountain buster, you can dodge 2, 3 or more during the fight and it makes difference. (This only works for PLD though, flash does not have blind effect in WAR.)
If the fight is long enough to kill Titan, it is very likely you will find you spent all your cooldowns and a mountain buster is coming. So it is best to save them as much as possible. If you are full HP you can most probably eat a bomb and survive a moutain buster, better than have a mountain buster followed by stomps with no cooldown (the one after the gaol rock.)
Have the highest HP you can and eat some food like La Noscea toast, Knights bread of Finger Sandwich you will probably have from your quests.

[JonBigwood]

For our practice runs, DF is fine but we prefer PF. I don't like dictating ilvl for the fight so I don't use PF, and it is so much easier to just get 8 people from our LS or various FCs who know the fight. We never carry anyone, in the sense that we take people there to practice until they learn the fight, and then go with a FC/LS group for the real deal.

I suppose when you go to party finder to just practice you say it, so that people who would like to obtain the relic don't join that group. :-)