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    Anomander_Rake's Avatar
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    Ezrael Azara
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    Seraph
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    Lancer Lv 60
    It would be nice if they could do it right, would add a ton more diversity to how people play. would take an immense amount of tweaking, refining and balancing. and of course it would leave many players un-happy, but a lot of players also happy. can never have win/win
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    ZohnoReecho's Avatar
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    Zohno Reecho
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    I would first "fix" the fact that skeletons and gargoyles are sleepable and gryphons aren't <.<
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    Dark-Saviour's Avatar
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    Dark Saviour
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    Cactuar
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    Carpenter Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ZohnoReecho View Post
    I would first "fix" the fact that skeletons and gargoyles are sleepable and gryphons aren't <.<
    I guess you could say those skeletons are...

    *sunglasses*

    lazy bones.
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    Dante_Purgatory's Avatar
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    Dante Volio
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    @OP
    I totally agree with your ideas even though the elemental weakness stuff won't happen
    I'd love to see mobs getting their characteristic behavior back like you mentioned above.
    Some additional ideas:
    -Mobs that randomly heal you (like Hares in FFXII)
    -Mobs reacting to /emotes
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    ZohnoReecho's Avatar
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    Zohno Reecho
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    Ragnarok
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    Any kind of % resisted wouldn't be "acceptable" to the mass and would just give them one more reason to denigrate a job.
    People require you to get cross class skills to increase your damage by a few % for few seconds. Guess what would happen if you had a constant damage reduction.
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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    if you remember correctly, yoshida did take time while the beta for explain why it will not happend.
    it will lead that some class, like BLM will become soo much imbah infront of some monster that it will make inefficient to bring any other class. like it was already the case in the V1.

    an example, based on what you have said: piercing against flying monster, garuda is flying (ok it's more hovering but still), then the efficient way to kill her will be to bring 3 bard+1 dragoon for kill her... monk, summoner and black mage will simply be left out.
    another example more... funny: a undead, if we follow your idea, they will be extremely weak to healing. for beat them, people will come with 6-7 White Mage for kill it simply because the damage from the healing will be more efficient.

    people tend to use the most...efficient way to clear a content, not to face the content with any setup. bringing this will lead to a huge inbalance between the class, not from the game, but from the player.... it's why Yoshida had take the decision to not put back this ingame.

    indeed it can bring more strategie...sadly player will often make any other strategie useless because the efficient it's always the better...

    ps: if you don't believe me, check your party finder on your server, it's a very good example of what people tend to do.
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    PallasLloyd's Avatar
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    Lloyd Inhert
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    if you remember correctly, yoshida did take time while the beta for explain why it will not happend.
    it will lead that some class, like BLM will become soo much imbah infront of some monster that it will make inefficient to bring any other class. like it was already the case in the V1.

    Right that's why we all stacked WHM on Ifrit and spammed Blizzaga on Garuda. OH WAIT! That didn't happen at all and Yoshi's excuse was 100% bullshit.
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by PallasLloyd View Post
    Right that's why we all stacked WHM on Ifrit and spammed Blizzaga on Garuda. OH WAIT! That didn't happen at all and Yoshi's excuse was 100% bullshit.
    Yep, people don't stack Bards now or specifically want casters for certain Coil Turns. Oh, and Ranged aren't preferred in CT for Atomos or anything. Honestly, Yoshi should have just came out and admited he wanted to completely design a universalized battle system even though the most generic MMOs out there does a bit more than ARR is doing and no one cares lol. Heck, look at Ragnarok Online, grindy as all heck yet it has cards you can plop onto your stuff and even cast mage spells as your melee - that battle system is more unique and in depth than ARR's and those of us who played RO knows just how unbalanced it was lol.
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    Lloyd Inhert
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Yep, people don't stack Bards now or specifically want casters for certain Coil Turns. Oh, and Ranged aren't preferred in CT for Atomos or anything. Honestly, Yoshi should have just came out and admited he wanted to completely design a universalized battle system even though the most generic MMOs out there does a bit more than ARR is doing and no one cares lol. Heck, look at Ragnarok Online, grindy as all heck yet it has cards you can plop onto your stuff and even cast mage spells as your melee - that battle system is more unique and in depth than ARR's and those of us who played RO knows just how unbalanced it was lol.
    Oh I'm right there with you. I'm seriously amused they have the audacity to charge 15 dollars a month for this compared to what is out there for free and buy to play.
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    Player Eekiki's Avatar
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    Kickle Cubicle
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    Balmung
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    Rogue Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PallasLloyd View Post
    Right that's why we all stacked WHM on Ifrit and spammed Blizzaga on Garuda.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Yep, people don't stack Bards now or specifically want casters for certain Coil Turns. Oh, and Ranged aren't preferred in CT for Atomos or anything.
    Quoting myself:
    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    The people who believe that those are requirements are scrubs.
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