Quote Originally Posted by Riv View Post
And FATEs bred nothing but bad players
[citation needed]

I'd go on hours and hours grinding FATEs, to me they were fun. Doing Copperbell Mines for the 40th time wouldn't make me play any better than now.

Dungeons require a commitment of 40 or so minutes for each run, are always the same and before Stone Vigil, are kind of boring IMO. I don't understand why SE did this, when people in WoW complains daily about the dead world and the lobby game.