PS1 game that has better battle graphics than FFXIV

[Neptune]

Hiromichi Tanaka, what went wrong. And I don't ask that rhetorically. I'd really, truly like to know.

I've recently started playing Chrono Cross, also produced by Tanaka, and wanted to share some of the battle effects from it. If nothing else I think this should serve as good material for the team to base the new battle effects on, assuming they are in fact working on them.

Fireball
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LJK3T3abNk&t=4m56s

Magmabomb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LJK3T3abNk&t=1m52s

Uplift
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TABZC5TV7ro&t=1m10s

Air and Water attacks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8SdHoQHpvg&t=3m25s

And just for fun FF7 battle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqddi...eature=related

What the hell happened in between these PS1 games and FFXIV. I don't really know, but for now, I'll be on the PS1.

[Wolfie]

Spells in FFXIV are basically slightly heterogeneous blobs with a different hue per element.

[Shikaree]

Not that good graphics are a bad thing, but I was talking with someone lately and we both agreed that it seemed like the games released nowadays aren't like what they used to be.

And I mean in the sense that they're all graphics and show, and story and content has been sacrificed for it.

In FFXIV's case, they also got lazy with the layout of the graphics.

[Anty]

... i think nobody knows what happened... just sad so far it did... and hopefully we see a huge improvement, HUGE!

[Neptune]

Not that good graphics are a bad thing, but I was talking with someone lately and we both agreed that it seemed like the games released nowadays aren't like what they used to be.

And I mean in the sense that they're all graphics and show, and story and content has been sacrificed for it.

In FFXIV's case, they also got lazy with the layout of the graphics.

Yeah I don't know what happened - SE got particularly lazy and carried away with movie-making. Just because you can make it into an interactive movie doesn't make it a good game. Like Tetsuya Takahashi said, that kind of game making is done. At least back in the day they had to work to convey a story and experience. The battle effects I just don't get though. We get a hetergeneous (I'd say homogenous - lol) 2D overlayed blob de jour instead of actual elements in shapes. Chrono Cross puts FFXIV to shame. I'd be happy if those exact PlayStation graphics were copy and pasted into FFXIV. The graininess of it would look so awesome compared to the 2D blobs.

[Hikozaemon]

how they ever thought it was ok to release a game w/ numerous battle skills and have the same generic animations for 90% of them is mind boggling and unacceptable. and how they have taken a step back from ff11 in the spell department is even worse as mentioned all spells are just colored blob effects its farking rediculous. Whats there solution to this travesty? "we increased the size of spells/battle effects" yah that really fixed the problem idiots. at this rate this game is completely doomed i dont see anything; even a miracle saving it now. love how they said they where fixing things people had issues w/ in ff13 also yet they still kept the same moronic battle sytem.

[Victor]

This game is well beyond salvation

[ObeiKinstar]

I blame the FPS genre, it has taken over everything.

[Ark_mage2]

I just finished Chrono Cross a few months ago. It really is an exemplary example of how to make a game (and specifically a battle system). Of course some of the higher level CC spells are a little over the top, what with dimension destroying attacks and such.

[Jennestia]

It has flashier particle effects, not graphics. Even XI (a 2001 PS2 game) has better particle effects and continues to. In essense the magic/ability effects suffer from what the rest of the game suffered from -- rushed release. A lot of it literally screams placeholder if you've ever done particle design before.