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  1. #11
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    Remmadar's Avatar
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    Remmadar Madora
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Provoking a newly spawned mob does help in some instances where the mob spawned at the same time a big heal went out from one of your healers

    Sometimes preloading your combo doesn't work out
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  2. #12
    Player Rochetm's Avatar
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    Kicking Wolf
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Remmadar View Post
    Provoking a newly spawned mob does help in some instances where the mob spawned at the same time a big heal went out from one of your healers

    Sometimes preloading your combo doesn't work out
    In that case you healer screwed up. Most healers know not to toss out AoE heals as adds pop.
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  3. #13
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    Kitru Kitera
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maqaqa View Post
    If you already built some hate, provoke will lower your enmity.
    No, it won't. It will provide 1 more enmity than you had when you used it. It places you at highest enmity +1, and, if you're currently tanking, that means that you'll have highest enmity.
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  4. #14
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    Pesmergia Unknown
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    Behemoth
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    Don't rely on shield lob/provoke. Save Spirits Within for moments like this. A combed savage blade saving a rage of halone, WHM pull agro, provoke use rage of halone + spirits within = your mob forever.

    Shield lob is only good as an opener for pulling, that is basically all. It takes a matter of 500 damage or 1k healing to pull agro off a voke/lob. It takes around 1.8k dmg and 3.6k healing to pull agro off voke +spirits + a saved RoH.

    Also this is an issue with you not managing your agro meters between each mob.
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    Last edited by Pesmergia; 01-04-2014 at 04:30 PM.

  5. #15
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    M'aqaqa Qimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    No, it won't. It will provide 1 more enmity than you had when you used it. It places you at highest enmity +1, and, if you're currently tanking, that means that you'll have highest enmity.
    I have the feeling provoke "ignores" yourself and if you are on the top of the hate list it will just put you 1 point of hate over the second on the list.
    Hope my english makes sense.
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    Last edited by Maqaqa; 01-04-2014 at 10:29 PM.

  6. #16
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    Paikis Pryslack
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    Coeurl
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Maqaqa View Post
    I have the feeling provoke "ignores" yourself and if you are on the top of the hate list it will just put you 1 point of hate over the second on the list.
    Hope my english makes sense.
    Feelings don't matter. What matters is empirical evidence. You can test this yourself, or you can just accept my word (and that of Kitru) that Provoke will not lower your threat.
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  7. #17
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    Sir Taint
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Maqaqa View Post
    I have the feeling provoke "ignores" yourself and if you are on the top of the hate list it will just put you 1 point of hate over the second on the list.
    Hope my english makes sense.

    Definitely doesn't lower your hate. You can test it in 1 minute.
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