@ WHM who stoneskin whole party

[jammyt]

Pretty sure everything worth saying has already been said, but I'm still gonna back up the point that there's no harm in casting Stoneskin, especially when heals aren't required and you've got some spare cast-time. I also understand that one of the arguments against casting it on DPS is that they have low HP so it isn't as effective on them than on a tank, which is ridiculous anyway, considering that if they have a low maximum HP, surely any boost to that is worthwhile...

[Kako0404]

Someone mentioned why not just pop a Medica or CIII in the beginning for the same result. Enmity aside, casting a 465 (IIRC) mp spell in the beginning has a negative trickle down effect on mp efficiency esp if something goes wrong early. It's more noticeable than one would think. Besides Medica heals too little and C3 requires huddling. SS mitigation is still king.

[sheepysheepy]

BTW, just a pair of handy, simple macros for all you stoneskinners out there

Makes life easier

tried that when i started playing

unfortunately its normally something like

1. load in
2. stoneskin self and tank
3. wait around for other people to skip the cutscene
4. cast protect as soon as they load in so you hit everyone before they run off like twats
5. stoneskin the rest after you put regen on tank for first pull



i do it everywhere apart from turn2, and rarely if ever do people make it through a dungeon/primal with it still intact,
and its not even 24seconds because half the party already has it by the time everyones loaded in and if theres 2 whm i do the bottom 4 while they usually do the top 4

[Sanguisio]

Haha
Can I ask which class you play.

The reason personally why I do it, and reapply when I can throughout the raid or whatever is to prevent DoTs, I especially try to keep it up on our casters so they can keep their dps up, also in mitigation terms it already means i'm one heal ahead for whoever its on.

[Cerick]

If you do not see the benefit from casting Stoneskin before bosses or on load in during dungeons then that's your own thing.

As a WHM on all boss fights, Stoneskin keeps my mana pool a little higher and my threat lower.

Example - Titan HM that folks have quoted is worthless because of first tumult

if I medica on first tumult I am usually 2nd on hate list instantly, then you have second tumult is dps is a bit low and then titan jumps. 3 medicas that early in the fight is high high high agro

Why not stoneskin party first so I don't have to cast medica at all on first tumult? Saving my enmity and giving tank another round to get sufficient hate. As well on Titan HM, Stoneskin during fight is a waste? Not when you know mountain crash is incoming. I pug Titan every day almost to help people on their relics, so I am not always grouping with ilvl 80-90s, and even if I was I am not going to change my Stoneskin habit.

Every boss fight Stoneskin is worthwhile, i'm sorry that you are too impatient to see the benefit. WHM have extremely broken agro in this game, anything I can do to mitigate that and the dmg to the group is worthwhile to me. I'd rather end the fight with a healthy mana pool and everyone alive than have the group die because I ran out of mana.

[SolArisa]

If somebody does not want to be buffed, then I can live with it. Usually longer than that person.

If someone does not care about the extra 10% from Stoneskin, I will happily stop curing when his HP drop below the 10% mark. I have no problem with letting people die who think that they have to tell me how to do my job.

[Tlamila]

1. load in
2. stoneskin self and tank
3. wait around for other people to skip the cutscene
4. cast protect as soon as they load in so you hit everyone before they run off like twats
5. stoneskin the rest after you put regen on tank for first pull

Mh yeah I basically stoneskin people when they get out of cutscene/arrive to the battle, so in the order in which they do that. Kinda hard making a macro for it.

[Katchii]

If someone does not care about the extra 10% from Stoneskin, I will happily stop curing when his HP drop below the 10% mark. I have no problem with letting people die who think that they have to tell me how to do my job.

Not a single MMO has a cure spell that can heal the debuff known as "stupid"

[Umero]

just stop it, most of the time its just wasted anyways.

I've just wasted my few seconds reading this nonsense.

[SolArisa]

Not a single MMO has a cure spell that can heal the debuff known as "stupid"

But with a proper game design, you would be able to throw Mega-Potions of Intelligence on other people.