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    Atiqa Craiger
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    DPS check for Extreme Primals

    So, just a short simple question, that I haven't found an answer to anywhere else...

    I'm a SMN, and as I understand it, Omnitome (EX primal weapon) is an equally or even better weapon than Relic + 1. So now I would like to get it

    The question is: Do I have to spend 900 myth tomes on Relic + 1, just to be able to beat the EX primals and get Omnitome ?

    If that's the case, that's just wrong.... I thought I would be able to take a different route and skip relic + 1 for now, so that I could spend more tomes on armor.

    Appreciate if you explain why or why not Relic + 1 is needed
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    OPneedNerfs's Avatar
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    Zyxt Fair
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    Use a job with relic +1 to get another job's EX primal weapon.
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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    I'm curious about this too.

    One would say "it's for alts"... well, I don't run Coil with alts, so why would I want a level 90 weapon for them?

    I've only done Garuda, my regular Stardust Rod seems fine. But I also use foods, potions and save my cooldowns for Suparna.
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    I don't think you need Relic +1 for the EM Primals as "DPS". However, you need ilvl80 wp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    I don't think you need Relic +1 for the EM Primals as "DPS". However, you need ilvl80 wp.
    Okay... Yeah I will definitely try to do it without Relic + 1.

    Right now I use Titan weapon and have ilvl 76... But I was planning on getting better gear before doing EX primals. Plus using food and potions.

    This is not an alt btw I don't have any job that's higher, so doing it with another job is out of the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
    Okay... Yeah I will definitely try to do it without Relic + 1.

    Right now I use Titan weapon and have ilvl 76... But I was planning on getting better gear before doing EX primals. Plus using food and potions.

    This is not an alt btw I don't have any job that's higher, so doing it with another job is out of the question.
    Yeah you should be fine, it is just Tanks who can't afford to be at lower ilvl than the DD by a huge margin. So long you are hitting the DPS check on Titan heart and killing Garuda before the 4th time the sisters shows up you will be fine.
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    Tiger Undie
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    do you have accuracy issues as summoner? otherwise +1 relic aka The Veil of Wiyu Zenith is way better then omnitome

    and omnitome is ugly as hell ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    do you have accuracy issues as summoner? otherwise +1 relic aka The Veil of Wiyu Zenith is way better then omnitome

    and omnitome is ugly as hell ...
    Yeah...

    Checked around some more, and found that Zenith is the better choice in the end, and it looks much cooler

    The problem is Accuracy, but if I get Necklace from Ultima, I should be okay after using food.... Then I go for EX primal accs and allagan legs for more accuracy.

    Thanks for the answers
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    Raegen Beaumont
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    do you have accuracy issues as summoner? otherwise +1 relic aka The Veil of Wiyu Zenith is way better then omnitome

    and omnitome is ugly as hell ...
    it's not way better. your char being seeker of the sun miqo'te compared to a duskwight elezen has a bigger impact on your damage than those 18 determination. the acc on the other hand which is the same for everyone opens up more opportunities when you gear up your char.
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    Nyne Helios
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    Be warned: even though an i80 weapon is totally fine for ex primals, you will get trolled by people. Also, plenty of e-peen enthusiasts will quote parser numbers claiming that you do low damage. They will not disclose that their parser does NOT count pet damage into dps averages. (most times they don't even realize it, or how the numbers they see are actually affecting a fight)
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