Crystal Tower Drop Adjustments

[Orophin]

The armoury system is fine. In fact, the Armoury system currently allows for those who show true dedication to their job to shine out amongst the thousands of other healers or tanks or DPS.

The Armory System isn't fine. The point of the system is to be able to play every job in the game, but the ability to do this to max efficiency is hampered by the limit on drops in the raid content, as well as having to focus your Myth on one class if you want to play it as best as possible.

I'm personally ok with how Coil and Myth work because they're the highest tier of gear available. I'm NOT ok with subpar gear out of CT I could use for my alts being limited to being looted on once a week. It would take 45 weeks to get all of your classes geared up in CT. (and that only covers half of your gear) That doesn't encourage playing all classes at all.

[OldGeezer]

The Armory System isn't fine. The point of the system is to be able to play every job in the game, but the ability to do this to max efficiency is hampered by the limit on drops in the raid content, as well as having to focus your Myth on one class if you want to play it as best as possible.

I'm personally ok with how Coil and Myth work because they're the highest tier of gear available. I'm NOT ok with subpar gear out of CT I could use for my alts being limited to being looted on once a week. It would take 45 weeks to get all of your classes geared up in CT. (and that only covers half of your gear) That doesn't encourage playing all classes at all.

The Armory system is fine. Like you said it allows you to play every job in the game, however, that doesn't mean you get raid loot for every class every week. You have to choose. CT isn't subpar gear, it's transitional gear for end-game raiding just like darklight gear. Lots of Titan hard modes will benefit with CT gear and it will help Coil runs as well. Just because it's not the best, doesn't make it worthless. Lots of people don't have Coil on farm, they will definitely benefit from this gear even if you do not.

[Mook_Mook]

limiting content keeps you coning back week after week. they want retention not patch players. I'd prefer two chests per boss butt that's just me

[Karnyboy]

I have no issues with it.

Man you kids are spoiled....yep I just generalized you. How does that feel?

[Lurkios]

Artifically extended content via arbitrary limits is the bane of every MMO player ever to reach "end-game".

We all hate it, we'll all continue to complain about it, and they'll continue to do it because they'd rather you log in every Monday for 3 hours before you've finished all the content you can benefit from for the week than have you log in every patch for a week or two, you might skip a few months that way.

But yes, I agree the CT/Coil lockout and the Mytho caps are both rather annoying and wish they'd be removed entirely.

[ApolloGenX]

We all hate it, we'll all continue to complain about it, and they'll continue to do it because they'd rather you log in every Monday for 3 hours before you've finished all the content you can benefit from for the week than have you log in every patch for a week or two, you might skip a few months that way.

As a casual, that is what this encourages me to do... just cancel until next patch after I have seen content. This is lazy design. Good design would be to put in an AA system, gardening, player housing, or other long term fun things to do that give you a reason to log in everyday...not cripple progress behind artificial barriers.

As a casual, I simply say- "Ok, so I have seen CT and Coil"... why bother with the grind for gear? Hardcores grind the same content and farm for gear.

This model doesn't seem to really fit well with casuals or hardcore players.

[PhageLock]

I would say if they tune the reset timers down to 3-4 days instead of 7, this should be more than fair on both sides of the fence. It allow players to obtain 2 loots per week but at the same time it's the players responsibility to keep up with raid reset timers to maintain the 2 loot viability. I have feeling this will happen as 2.2 comes around to allow players to catch up ilvl 80 range.

I also find it funny people get upset because they feel the loot is "wasted".... No the loot is not wasted because it's just virtual goods... SE can create 100000 chest pieces on the second if they wanted too

The idea that looting should be class base will not work and is ridiculous. The ability to gear up all my classes to t5 standards in 5 weeks is no fun and no challenge. Not a good idea.

People still don't understand how gearing works in this game. CT is not means to gear ur class with all ilvl80 gear, it was meant to "help" plugin missing or rarer pieces of loot so you can start farming coili. Look at this way, start lvl 50 with i60 as starting base gear then start reaching i70 for your base while plugging i80 items so you can start farming coil for i90. Save myth to help plugin missing 90 pieces.

[NefGP]

Nope. This is what I miss most about pre-abyssea XI.


Want endgame gear? Go do Sky/Sea/Limbus/Assault/Salvage whatever to your heart's content. There were some entry limitations, but no limits on actual loot obtained apart from generally crappy drop rates (which is another thing, why does nothing actually drop anymore? I like loot in coffers to an extent but wouldn't perhaps having the mobs themselves randomly drop loot be better than these ridiculous barriers?)

Plus it kinda makes having THF pointless since it's primary purpose is making money (and hate manipulation but that was new to XI)

[Momita]

1 drop per week = 5 piece (no belt) = 5 weeks x 9 job = 45 weeks (10 months)
1 drop job per week = 5 piece = 5 weeks x 9 jobs = 5 weeks... so after 5 weeks no more people doing CT... and after whining cuz there is no content.

[Djeserit]

1 drop per week = 5 piece (no belt) = 5 weeks x 6 sets = 30 weeks (6-7 months)
1 drop job per week = 5 piece = 5 weeks x 9 jobs = 5 weeks... so after 5 weeks no more people doing CT... and after whining cuz there is no content.

FTFY.

In most cases people aren't looking to get all 6 sets, usually 2-3. Oddly enough, 3 sets * 5 weeks per set = about the time 2.2 will land. Maybe they put some thought into it and intentionally designed the lockout so most people would do it consistently until then?