BLM or BRD (less monotonous)

[Alphoter5]

I want to roll a dps class but cant decide if BLM or BRD. Wich class is less monotonous it terms of gameplay? Wich one has a funner rotation?
Also i want to know wich one is more required in end game content for groups and stuff
Getting sick of tanking, now i want to see those big numbers c:

[AthrunZolza]

Iv played as both brd and blm I personally like blm better an notice shouts for both for raids and such so do which you feel is best. Lol

[Gardes]

now i want to see those big numbers c:

Go with BLM.

[Thorauku]

Rotations? Bard doesn't have rotations, so it's instantly a BLM win.

Tank's damage is higher than Bard, assuming you played WAR ofc.

[WiseWolfHolo]

Bard is a play as skills become available kind of class, but if you want to see big numbers with a class that has a rotation go blm. Bard only has 1 redeeming quality left and that is its songs. Sure it has silence but now players have become so good at using a pally/selene/monk silence that it really is not needed. So for now bards will always be needed but once players start figuring out better mana/tp control, then having 1 may soon be a hindrance than anything, sure foe is great and all for burn phases but so are pots and the max potential of foe only comes out if more than 1 mage is in the group doing damage anyway.

[OmegaNovaios]

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BRD will always be useful in any situation even if you completely ignore support mechanics. A BRD "can" match the DPS of other classes if played correctly, and considering the skill needed on BRD compared to other jobs to maximize DPS as well and the ability to have 100% uptime compared to other jobs often a good BRD will surpass your avg player on any other job. At the point of when players achieve such skill at their job that the difference in BRD and other jobs is noticeable then it won't even matter what setup you are using you will be able to clear that content w/o any issues whether it is w/o BRD at all or if you are stacking 4 BRDs. That is even in spite of the much slower charging LB gauage as SE has designed EVERY battle to be able to completed w/o the LB.

W/o the use of songs BRD is still a full DPS job and when using songs then BRD is making up for the lack of dmg by supporting the rest of the party. Songs are simply meant to be used the same way CDs are, in tough fights you save CDs for when you need them except BRD is able to save for something other than just burst mechanics.

[LetBloodline]

BRD will always be useful in any situation even if you completely ignore support mechanics. A BRD "can" match the DPS of other classes if played correctly, and considering the skill needed on BRD compared to other jobs to maximize DPS as well and the ability to have 100% uptime compared to other jobs often a good BRD will surpass your avg player on any other job. At the point of when players achieve such skill at their job that the difference in BRD and other jobs is noticeable then it won't even matter what setup you are using you will be able to clear that content w/o any issues whether it is w/o BRD at all or if you are stacking 4 BRDs. That is even in spite of the much slower charging LB gauage as SE has designed EVERY battle to be able to completed w/o the LB.

W/o the use of songs BRD is still a full DPS job and when using songs then BRD is making up for the lack of dmg by supporting the rest of the party. Songs are simply meant to be used the same way CDs are, in tough fights you save CDs for when you need them except BRD is able to save for something other than just burst mechanics.

while i agree that a good BRD can surpass a avarage player with other DPS this don't mean that a good BRD is the same as a good BLM, not in any situation

They have the 100% uptime plus that can be more or less heavy based on the fight at hand

But other DPS classes get biggher numbers and if 2 player with the same skill compare on DPS base the BRD have it tough

Sure if you get great players with great gear you can do it with 4 BRD but this not mean that with other classes you couldn't do it more easily

If he want to see big numbers he should go for BLM

Anyway i'm not saing that BRD is useless, just that i disagree with the statement "At the point of when players achieve such skill at their job that the difference in BRD and other jobs is noticeable". Better players will get the better off other DPS too. I'll say more, a great BLM will do much more DMG than a avarage one compared to a freat BRD Vs a avarage one since a better BLM will get in better position in better times and will get a uptime on boss way higher than the avarage one, while both BRD will have nearly 100% uptime anyway

[OmegaNovaios]

Sure if you get great players with "great gear" you can do it with 4 BRD but this not mean that with other classes you couldn't do it more easily

Gear barely matters in this game. First time I beat Turn 5 with my static I chose to use i71 BRD including i80 wpn (because my party needed songs and RoD more than pure DPS) in comparison to my SMN which was over i85 at the time. Testing on both SMN and BRD since then going from i70 to i90 in gear minus the WPN is around a +10% dmg increase. We beat Turn 5 with 40 seconds left to spare on enrage on the first win and I was parsing 90% of the dmg of the DRG and BLM all with over i80 gear and we had a 2nd BRD. Considering we beat the enrage by 40 seconds with 2 BRDs singing I'd also say no one there was slacking on skill for DPS, but that was pre-2.1 nerf for BRD AND BLM.

[OmegaNovaios]

while i agree that a good BRD can surpass a avarage player with other DPS this don't mean that a good BRD is the same as a good BLM, "not in any situation"

A good example of a BRD being able to compete with a BLM in particular for highest DPS is Titan HM/EX. This is fight is very disadvantageous for BLM trying to maximize DPS.

if 2 player with the same skill compare on DPS

This is more of what my original point was over. It takes MORE skill on other jobs to master. Therefor the same skill on BRD v other jobs is actually more effectively reaching that peak on BRD compared to other jobs. And yes, at the peak of every DPS job BRD will be in last for DPS in MOST situations, but most players will not find that peak. Even players that beat turn 5 are not guaranteed to have quite reached that absolute peak, as shown in my example above.

[BrandoH]

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Sounds like you're bad on SMN if you only did 10% more damage than your brutally undergeared BRD. Your BLM was also not living up to his potential.

On a high gear and skill team for T5, BRD will always be the lowest out of the DPS classes. Our mainhand scales worse, and we ate a pretty significant nerf with 2.1. That being said, you shouldn't be parsing much lower than DRG or BLM at all, 25 DPS lower at the most. You'll likely be 50+ DPS lower than SMN+Garuda and MNK though.