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    SwordCoheir's Avatar
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    Sword Coheir
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    What you do kind of depends on the amount of mobs, and what it is your fighting, and what your groups goal in mind is because you'll have to change your strat depending on the scenario, but the best thing you can do is always utilize your Cooldown moves like Spirits and Circle of Scorn and Rampart while your GCD is active, it helps minimize downtime when your not building hate and allows for more consistent threat building.

    Your bread and butter rotation on a mob will usually consist of

    Fast Blade > Spirits Within on GCD (If Ready) > Savage Blade > Circle of Scorn on GCD (If Ready) > Rage of Halone

    But this can vary like I said. To give you an idea of different, here's how I typically pull in different scenarios.

    Single Target Boss: Flash > Fight or Flight on GCD > Fast Blade > Spirits Within > Savage Blade > Circle of Scorn > Rage of Halone

    3 or Less Mobs Close Together: Flash > Fight or Flight > Flash > Circle of Scorn > Fast Blade > Spirits Within > Savage Blade > Some Cooldown if needed > Rage of Halone > *Swap Target > Fast > Savage > Swap Target > Rage of Halone > Return to *

    If they're close enough to link but far enough apart where Flash won't hit them all initially, use Shield Lob to get the mobs to converge on you. You may have also noticed I put Circle of Scorn before Spirits within this time, this is because the DoT from CoS will help maintain hate easier on off mobs when you have AoE DoT centric jobs like Bard and SMN.

    4 or More Mobs: Flash > Fight or Flight > Flash > Circle of Scorn > Flash > Spirits Within > Flash > Fast Blade > Savage Blade > Rage of Halone > Flash > *Swap Target > Fast > Savage > Swap Target > Rage of Halone > Flash > Return to *

    Any Real AoE Zerg Scenario: Flash > Fight or Flight > Flash > Circle of Scorn > Flash > Spirits Within > Flash Till out of MP > * Target Highest HP mob > Fast Blade > Riot Blade > Flash > Return to *

    Maintain that rotation until the mobs numbers get burned down to a sparse few, then either work on regaining your MP with a Fast/Riot Combo or kill them off.

    Another thing to keep in mind is, even if your not spamming Flash for lots of mobs, be sure to utilize Flash regularly if a mob can be blinded. You'd be surprised how often you can dodge attacks despite having the evasion of a brick wall. I personally recommend using Flash after every 2 or so Rage of Halone combos and use your defensive buffs when flash's effect has worn off, this gives both your defensive buffs and the resistance timer a chance to cooldown/expire and gives you more overall mitigation long term.
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    Vanguard319's Avatar
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    I've returned! First I find pants, then Louisoix dies for sending me to the void.
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    Character
    Uni Neko
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 72
    I'll usually use Circle of Scorn right before flash, as the DoT helps maintain hate on all affected mobs. It's useful when your party insists on spamming AoEs like flaming arrow and shadow flare.

    For lower levels, it's more important that the dps is focusing on the same target as the tank, since your hate tools are more limited. Also, while Provoke is good for getting quick hate back on a de-aggroed mob, be aware that it only lasts for a few seconds, and you have to do some damage to that mob to maintain hate on it.
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    Sarah Leonhart
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    Also remember that flash does NOT break combo, so if people are creating up on agro on multiple mobs, you can flash mid combo to put threat on more mobs.

    I say this because if some one does take agro, and your rage of halone is next on combo, you can Provoke, flash (drawing the mob close to you) and rage of halone to solidify threat. Remember that shield lob does break combo, so unless the mob is outside of flash range, don't use shield lob mid combo. This is a common mistake a lot of paladins do.

    Also after pulling, use flash once (or twice) to round up the mobs into a nice cluster. Fast blade and savage blade on target1, rage of halone on target2. Fast blade to savage blade again on target1, rage of halone on target3. Try to throw in some flashes here and there. If target1 is half dead, and you have a solid lead of agro, just stop attacking him and let dps finish it off, if you don't have a Solid lead at this point, go ahead and combo finish target1 with rage of halone.

    Also prioritize str over vit for accessories pre-50, the higher your damage, the easier it is to hold threat.
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    Last edited by Yunnie; 01-02-2014 at 07:48 PM.

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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    I do not have circle of storm, lv32 now
    But i am gerting better now since i practice in brayfox
    Thank you for the advice
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    Lord_Zlatan's Avatar
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    Zlatan Tarrant
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    I do not have circle of storm, lv32 now
    But i am gerting better now since i practice in brayfox
    Thank you for the advice
    Brayflox in general is a crash course in generating enmity. It was definitely the first time I really had to focus on generating a ton of hate at the onset. Just as a side note... stay in there if you want until you get a full cavalry set... i used it from 32-50.
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