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  1. #1
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    Nezacant's Avatar
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    Oliviah Finale
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    I feel this problem is more with the way coil is locked out rather than it being the method people are using to finish turn 2. Titan HM is a single tank fight also and no one cares. I say kill the lock out and do a loot lockout similar to CT.
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    Denevieve Nebilim
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    Like I said before If they patch this then they better patch turn 3 and 4 since you all feel it's unfair. No speed runs either.
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    Hanabira Asashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear View Post
    Like I said before If they patch this then they better patch turn 3 and 4 since you all feel it's unfair. No speed runs either.

    turn 3 is obviously incomplete.. and no one waits out the timer in turn 4 to help them kill the mobs easily. not the same at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanabira View Post
    turn 3 is obviously incomplete.. and no one waits out the timer in turn 4 to help them kill the mobs easily. not the same at all.
    Way to turn the blind eye people skip the adds during 3 I don't care if it's not complete or is, patch it.
    And you can bypass the enrage of 4
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    Last edited by TeaTimeBear; 01-03-2014 at 12:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear View Post
    Way to turn the blind eye people skip the adds during 3 I don't care if it's not complete or is, patch it.
    And you can bypass the enrage of 4
    fine, patch it. its not like turn 3 has any road blocks people use dirty tricks to bypass. And enrage of turn 4 is supposed to punish you, by dealing AE damage on top of all abilities any remaining mobs have left. it would be different if everything stopped moving and using attacks. Also, no one lives through turn 4 very long, and it surely doesnt help anyone by making the fight easier or bypassing any mechanics
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    Count Nogi
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    Can none of you read? Barely anyone has addressed the issue that this thread is for.

    At the moment, mostly all people doing T2 on Party Finder is using Enrage method. For every 90 Healers that clear, only 30 Tanks are clearing.

    This issue is why I started this thread. Not so all you illiterates can argue about whether the Enrage strategy was intended or not.

    EDit: One person mentioned removing lockout. That would surely work, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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    Last edited by MACEenyo; 01-03-2014 at 03:11 AM.

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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by MACEenyo View Post
    Can none of you read? Barely anyone has addressed the issue that this thread is for.
    Because it's a non-issue. The situation only presents itself if every group uses the enrage method, and even then all it requires is for someone in your group to switch to healer for one turn. Not necessarily one of the tanks, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Because it's a non-issue. The situation only presents itself if every group uses the enrage method, and even then all it requires is for someone in your group to switch to healer for one turn. Not necessarily one of the tanks, either.
    95% of Party Finder Turn 2 groups are 1 Tank, 3 Healers, 4 DD. That is a fact. The situation has presented itself I would say.
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    Liadan Summerfield
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    Quote Originally Posted by MACEenyo View Post
    95% of Party Finder Turn 2 groups are 1 Tank, 3 Healers, 4 DD. That is a fact. The situation has presented itself I would say.
    Statistics, how do they work?

    I can make up numbers, too! 95% of parties using the enrage strat with one tank are requiring a very, very geared tank to take the stacks up high enough and survive! See what I did there? I mean....

    I don't know why you would only take one tank. I've always taken two. It makes things a lot easier.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    If you don't understand why party finder groups does not equate to all groups, then I don't know how else to help you. There is most definitely not 3 healers clearing turn 2 for every tank.

    As for it being a non-issue: Join or form a static. Switch to dps or healer for one turn and join one of those party finder groups. Create your own party finder group set up how you want it to be set up. It's not hard.
    I've also seen exceptionally geared groups clear it with 2 healers. But the entire strat is a gear check - if your healers aren't geared enough, or you have undergeared DPS, it doesn't work. Gear should, however, be able to change how you complete an encounter, so I don't really see the issue.
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    Last edited by LiadansWhisper; 01-03-2014 at 03:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper View Post
    Statistics, how do they work?

    I can make up numbers, too! 95% of parties using the enrage strat with one tank are requiring a very, very geared tank to take the stacks up high enough and survive! See what I did there? I mean....

    I don't know why you would only take one tank. I've always taken two. It makes things a lot easier.
    Hi. There is no tanking once ADS is in Enrage mode. Thanks for sharing.

    My argument only applies to Party Finder.
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