Thread: New Class/Job in 2.2?

Tanks.

We NEED more tank classes before we need anything else. I say this while I would absolutely love to see a thief class and would gladly trade all of the classes I have leveled so far for just that one. But tanks before any more dd's

Need Support Class.

Time Mage.

Haste, Slow, Stop, Paralyze, Gravity etc. Would be Elite.

Originally Posted by OmegaNovaios

If DRK doesn't go 2H (whether Greatsword or Scythe) then EVERYONE is going to be rioting the forums at that fail of what I have stated above: throwing the job under the bus.

By everyone you mean people who played FFXI and thought it was a good game which evidently, through mountains of contrary evidence, stated the opposite and those who played FFX-2. Now those who actually liked Dark Knight in any other Final Fantasy game is perfectly content with 1-hand sword and shield or 1 hand spear with shield, etc. Scythe is a glaring shame of Dark Knight not to mention it looks ridiculous. You're supposed to be a wielder of death not a damn farmer.

Originally Posted by LordSaviour

Need Support Class.

I doubt we're going to get a true "support" role, mainly because the devs have already demonstrated through BRD and SCH that Support isn't a role on its own; it's a secondary role that can be activated at the cost of your primary functionality (Selene has less healing than Eos and activating the resource songs reduces BRD damage by 20%).

Interestingly enough, while I was delving through the piles of interviews with Yoshi-P last night, I found this one, from right before 2.1 released, which has Yoshi-P saying something pretty interesting:

Yes, we want to make sure that there is space in the party for at least two people of each role. 4-6 players is a number which has been used frequently in recent MMOs, but I stuck with the figure of eight people since back in the design stage for the aforementioned reasons. You can have two each of healer and tank and four DPS in the present situation. Once we add the hybrid role (which serves multiple roles), you'll be able to have two players from each role, for a total of 8 people.

So, apparently they don't have "support" as an explicit role planned, but they *do* have "hybrid" planned, which is, in all likelihood, going to be implemented with RDM as the archetype (similar to how PLD is the tank archetype and WHM the healer). I'm very curious as to how they'll do it though, especially since, to make the role justifiable, they'd need to change a lot of content to require someone who can bounce between roles from fight to fight (or even phase to phase).

Didn't Yoshi-P say something like IF they every made DRK, they would probably use GLA as the base and add a two-handed sword for them?
I wouldn't mind them giving GLA another weapon, especially considering both CNJ/WHM and THM/BLM do. >3>
As a mater of fact, why not just give all the classes second weapons? >3>

Originally Posted by Mimilu

Didn't Yoshi-P say something like IF they every made DRK, they would probably use GLA as the base and add a two-handed sword for them?

All he's said is that they could change the theme of the attacks and remove high enmity modifiers so that it could act as a feasible DPS. He's never said anything about changing weapons. The only comment he's made regarding weapons was in regards to dual-wielding wherein he said that it would be a brace of weapons that occupy a single slot rather than 2 separate weapons you equip.

I wouldn't mind them giving GLA another weapon, especially considering both CNJ/WHM and THM/BLM do. >3>
As a mater of fact, why not just give all the classes second weapons? >3>

Because the classes with 2 weapon types have 2 animations: casting with one weapon type and casting with the other weapon type. The visual differences between spells are the particle effects, which are completely unaffected by weapon choice or even the player animation. Changing a weapon for a weapon using class requires doubling the number of animations for that class, which is a crapton of work.

Originally Posted by Kitru

So, apparently they don't have "support" as an explicit role planned, but they *do* have "hybrid" planned, which is, in all likelihood, going to be implemented with RDM as the archetype (similar to how PLD is the tank archetype and WHM the healer). I'm very curious as to how they'll do it though, especially since, to make the role justifiable, they'd need to change a lot of content to require someone who can bounce between roles from fight to fight (or even phase to phase).

Hybriding class seems to be what they may have originally attempted with the Arcanist, what with it able to fulfill three roles, not very greatly, but still. I can see the RDM being both a Tank and Healer and being able to que up into a Duty Finder being as either/or. This opens the parties up a bit more for say, Tanks are in high demand: You party up as a RDM. You get in and team already has a healer. You can then focus on Tank role and pulling support heal if needed better than a paladin could.

Same with DPS/Heal hybrid (Much like SCH). If they already have a Healer class set, you can back them up in the harder parts to dungeons where one Healer may struggle, and once it events out quickly go right back into DPS mode. With the talk of Hybrid classes, I could see a RDM as an end all Hybrid being able to tap into all three.

If we get Support at a later time I hope they restructure the party or make Support a Hybrid only and add some support skills or make older classes into Support Hybrids. (Similar to DCUO's Tank, Healer, Controller (Support), and DPS settings where practically anyone is a DPS. Wish DCUO had picked up on proper Hybrids cause Troll/Healer Hybrid would have been outstanding...)