Thread: New Class/Job in 2.2?

Originally Posted by OmegaNovaios

If DRK doesn't go 2H (whether Greatsword or Scythe) then EVERYONE is going to be rioting the forums at that fail of what I have stated above: throwing the job under the bus. DRK isn't even a job on my top 5 jobs I'm hoping to see, but to see a DRK holding a Sword and Shield for DPS is just unacceptable to me. Sure you can DPS with that setup. It's very easy to rewrite stats so that GLA attacks can do dmg with a new job, but when you turn the iconic DRK into something so different people are going to be very angry when they expect to roll on "DRK" and get handed a Tank or a 1H DPS.

Firstly, DPSing with a one-handed sword and a shield isn't as unreasonable as you might think. Regardless of your opinion on FFX or it's characters, Tidus gives us a very good idea of what such a setup might look like: a large, bastard sword in one hand and a small buckler in the other. Buckler-style shields already exist in the game and there are a number of swords that are very big, big enough that they would look intimidating even when wielded in one hand (which isn't to say that the DRK couldn't have the animations for it's unique attacks wielding the weapon in both hands).

If we want every job to be described the way it SHOULD be and NEVER have the wpn choice of the class changing, then the armory system is pointless. SE will only be creating classes with 1 job. It's either add new wpns for jobs coming off certain classes or scrap classes entirely. SE is going to run into lots of issues trying to do so otherwise. They will either have a fail system or very angry customers.

The important thing to remember is that the weapon you wield as your job doesn't always have to match up with what you typically expect. Did people expect Bard to be the job that came out of Archer? Probably not, because you don't think of a Bard using a bow, and yet it still works for the setting. Do summoners normally use books as weapons? If they ever did, I can't find where. When you're dealing with the armory system, you can't shakle yourself to what has typically been done before and not allowing yourself to deviate from that.

Originally Posted by Nahara

DPSing with a one-handed sword and a shield isn't as unreasonable as you might think.

I don't have any issue with A class/job DPSing with a one-handed sword, it's just not really what I would expect out of a DRK from past experiences. However it is what I imagined both a RDM and BLU would be suited for w/ or w/o a shield in the off-hand.

Originally Posted by Nahara

The important thing to remember is that the weapon you wield as your job doesn't always have to match up with what you typically expect. Did people expect Bard to be the job that came out of Archer? Probably not, because you don't think of a Bard using a bow, and yet it still works for the setting. Do summoners normally use books as weapons? If they ever did, I can't find where. When you're dealing with the armory system, you can't shakle yourself to what has typically been done before and not allowing yourself to deviate from that.

I guess I forgot all about how BRD is setup and doesn't match how I would ideally expect either. I suppose instead of hoping for jobs that have matched my play style in the past I should hope for jobs that match my play style after SE completely remakes them into something I'm barely familiar with. I'll keep an open mind when SE releases new jobs, but I'm going to be upset if SE botches either RDM or BLU. IMO SE got away with the introduction of BRD and SMN, and by now it looks like it has blown over, but jobs that are far more iconic will definitely get more attention. And while I'm keeping an open mind I doubt others will.

Originally Posted by Mimilu

I wouldn't mind them giving GLA another weapon, especially considering both CNJ/WHM and THM/BLM do. >3>

I honestly have no idea why SE decided to give them one and two-handed weapons. Just one of those things where I feel it would be better to drop the one-handed ones (keeping the two-handed ones because Thyrus and Stardust Rod) and give the one-handed ones to some other job. Daggers should also be taken from GLD and given to whatever class eventually gives access to the THF and DNC.

Originally Posted by OmegaNovaios

I'll keep an open mind when SE releases new jobs, but I'm going to be upset if SE botches either RDM or BLU.

I'm sure a LOT of people are gonna be upset if they do a disservice to RDM and BLU. We just have to wait and see.

Originally Posted by Havenae

Tanks.

We NEED more tank classes before we need anything else. I say this while I would absolutely love to see a thief class and would gladly trade all of the classes I have leveled so far for just that one. But tanks before any more dd's

I agree that it is likely that we will see Muskateer as a class in 2.2. Corsair will probably be the DPS job that you get from Muskateer, as classes in FFXIV are made up and jobs emulate classic jobs from previous Final Fantasys. My hope is that Muskateer comes with two jobs by default, like Arcanist, and the second job is a Tank, like Cannoneer.