Jobs start @50?

[Kiara]

Kiara, your arguments look pretty but there are some flaws to them. Let's compare the anticipated job system where your class rank is the same as job rank (system X) with one which each new job starts from level 1 after unlocking (system Y).

Why are job quests, skill quests and JSE limited to only (system X)? Surely (system Y) will have quests to unlock the new jobs and the skill quests could be used as the main quest line of that job. Or, all classes could get new quests to unlock new skills. Nevermind the fact that there's a good chance these quests will be boring (if you find the current quests boring). Also, there's no reason why only jobs in (system X) would get JSE but jobs/classes in (system Y) wouldn't.

Why is it bland and the same boring old grind when leveling new jobs from level 1 but it's *exploring* and exciting when doing it on THM with a BLM job? You can have just as much fun *exploring* being a full BLM as being a THM/BLM.

The last point you made about having to level from 1 before exploring the new content is true. But you'd only need to get to ~20-25 before you could do the R30 content. You wouldn't need to get all the way to 50 before you start enjoying the new content. Now, what if THM unlocks BLM and BLM seems like the bee's knees to you. But, you already have THM at 50. Now, you don't get to enjoy the R30 content much.

^ this.

Exactly. The new content would liven up the 1-50 grind on the new jobs.

Hi Lautus,

I wouldn't say it's flawed; it's your opinion on something, and I have my opinion.

True, there absolutely can be Job Quests to unlock them even if you started at Rank 1 of a potential new Job System (so Paladin Rank 1), and you can have JSE quests in that system too. I never said you couldn't.

I said that that type of challenge, *if* they are challenging and engaging is something I'd consider real, meaningful content. Not grinding another Rank 1 - 50.

If you want to grind Paladin from R1 - 50 in an alternate system, I understand where you're coming from. I said that's not what I'd like to do, at all. It's boring and a copout for Square to hope that grinding Paladin from Rank 1 -> 50 is a replacement for giving us real content.

As for "exploring," I was addressing a point in a previous thread (look up the Dengeki Thread) from someone else, bringing up a concern about "what if CON unlocked WHM vs. BLM?" My point was (and it's confirmed now by SE) that you don't have to grind to Rank 50 to unlock a Job, so even if that poster was worried that their CON ranking up was a waste of time because they wanted it to be BLM (or WHM) and they got the opposite, that getting to Rank 20 or 30 wasn't so bad. It's better than getting it to Rank 50 (then I can see them getting really upset).

Ultimately, I know many friends on my server that don't mind and want to grind another "Job" to Rank 50, but after seeing great points made by Physic, Wind and a few others, I would agree with them, and can't wait to see Square's new Job System which has No Ranks. I'd rather spend my time doing other things that seem more interesting to me than grinding 1 - 50 again. Thanks.