How To Fix Summoners

[Leraje]

What we can all expect to be nerfed from the ARC/SMN/SCH are
Reduced HP/Stats of any Fairy/Egi, so you can actually kill the pet with less problems than it is now.
Another thing which can be nerfed is the way to get "Aetherflow" stacks ...
Revitalize is by far too strong and too spammable in contrast to Benediction of WHM.
Healing Reduced Effect of Miasma/Miasma 2 will be definitly nerfed for only pvp purpose.
Before you even start to say it won't be nerfed, SE already said not only ACN/SMN/SCH will be adjusted for pvp.
Other Classes will be changed too ^^.

[MichiKyou]

What we can all expect to be nerfed from the ARC/SMN/SCH are
Reduced HP/Stats of any Fairy/Egi, so you can actually kill the pet with less problems than it is now.
Another thing which can be nerfed is the way to get "Aetherflow" stacks ...
Revitalize is by far too strong and too spammable in contrast to Benediction of WHM.
Healing Reduced Effect of Miasma/Miasma 2 will be definitly nerfed for only pvp purpose.
Before you even start to say it won't be nerfed, SE already said not only ACN/SMN/SCH will be adjusted for pvp.
Other Classes will be changed too ^^.

Only issue with this is that ti would greatly hinder the class outside of PVP.

[Regis]

I think we should just remove the job crystal from every class and all play marauders.

[Djlovedrop]

This thread is my opinion on how to fix summoners but still keep them in PvP. The biggest thing right now is being able to global someone from 100% health to 0% in matter of 1-2 seconds. I have played 2,000 matches as a summoner and I feel that these are the changes needed.

Once again, this thread was made to give an opinion. I'm not going to waste my time proving that i ONCE hit 2400 Garuda ult.

[LongNu]

Once again, this thread was made to give an opinion. I'm not going to waste my time proving that i ONCE hit 2400 Garuda ult.

You had the balls to admit the obvious inbalance of summoners and offer suggestive fixes. Don't expect the FOTMers to be friendly

[PlanckZero]

Once again, this thread was made to give an opinion. I'm not going to waste my time proving that i ONCE hit 2400 Garuda ult.

No. Telling someone you believe that Enkindle is over powered is an opinion. Telling someone you can deal 2400 damage in pvp using enkindle is stating a fact, and either you stick up for your facts or you don't just toss them out there.

I just jumped into a pvp match with my summoner and with 138 Morale and 429 Int a Rouse+Spur Enkindle did 876 damage against the opposing teams whm.

Even in the absolute best case scenario where you got a crit on someone with protect rather than proshell who just happened to be using Blood for Blood you're looking at maybe somewhere in the 1700-1800 range at best.

[Djlovedrop]

I just jumped into a pvp match with my summoner and with 138 Morale and 429 Int

i have 100 more int and 144 more morale. Anyways its pointless talking to people that dont want the nerf lol.

[PlanckZero]

i have 100 more int and 144 more morale. Anyways its pointless talking to people that dont want the nerf lol.

And are you playing against people with the same stats?

Most of the people I find in pvp matches might be lucky to have half a set of i70 morale gear. Hell more of them are playing wearing nothing but their i90 pve gear.

This isn't a matter of enkindle needing to be nerfed, it's morale system needing to be adjusted to face the fact that without a matchmaking system the damage dealt with high morale and the mitigation lost with low morale leads to amounts of damage that people then blame on an "OP" class. The only reason summoner stands out is because it has the kind of burst damage that best stands out.

The morale system is the problem, the power of enkindle is just an end result. If you don't solve the underlying problem then after you've nerfed one ability people will just complain about the next one.

[Djlovedrop]

You dont even have to use fester until about 90 seconds in the fight if that. I think I mainly Fester when their is 2 people left and they give up.

[Foullacy]

Enkindle does way too much damage.

Remove Enkindle/Spur/Rouse in PVP.

SMNs have nearly zero utility, all they have is their damage, which right now is way too high.