Party finder ilevel restrictions

[duc015]

I've been noticing that players are setting high item level restrictions in party finder to get carried in fights like titan HM. Devs should update the party finder so either the party leader can't set an ilevel above their own, or a person can see the ilevel of every person in that party before they join. The point of party finder is to find a party, not lure a bunch of people to carry some weak player through content that they can't complete.

[Skotie]

Unlikely to happen considering how much of a handicap people seem to need to succeed at anything even slightly challenging in this game.

[Ri_ri]

They should remove the average item level.

It's sad so many people still thinks they can brute force their way though this game...

[Imapooonu]

No. It's fine as is.

I've seen people use pvp, all class, etc accessories to meet the minimal lvl req for titan hm. At least in pf I can help alleviate SEs horribly low lvl req for that and other fights.

[silentwindfr]

No. It's fine as is.

I've seen people use pvp, all class, etc accessories to meet the minimal lvl req for titan hm. At least in pf I can help alleviate SEs horribly low lvl req for that and other fights.

that another trouble, there we are talking of the ridiculous Ilevel asked by people... like ask for an Ilevel 85 for ultima or mog. and is not the only trouble, i have seen more and more group with 3 black mage and with one bard as dps, or 3 bard with 1 dragoon... still while asking an ilevel far over what it's really needed for finish it.

i admit the ilevel recquired in the DF is way too low for some defy or dungeon.... but, the new system have lead to some pretty insane abuse. new player will be forced to do it via DF or try to make a party. simply because the ilevel asked or the fact that most of the time people ask to have already kill the boss for be part of the group are simply an huge wall that some people will simply not cross before age or with luck via DF.


i can understand that people want to have the group they want and are free to do whatever they want...sadly, it's not a really good thing for the server, since new player will simply be leaved in a corner and the old player will only play together. i dunno what can be done for reduce this... but i think it will be a trouble, like in WoW or other mmorpg using the ilevel.

[TaalAzura]

if they meet the high ilevel requirement they set, it's unlikely that they're being carried.

[CUTS3R]

there we are talking of the ridiculous Ilevel asked by people... like ask for an Ilevel 85 for ultima or mog.

I know im a bit off topic but the ilvl requirements should have been higher than what they are now, Not ridiculously high but still.
You mentioned Ultima HM. Its ilvl required is 61, i think it should be 70. Not because its hard ( its not ) but because i find it stupid to have a fight available at ilvl 61 yet rewarding with ilvl 80 items. Same with CT which is even more ridiculous.

If it was me i'd set every ilvl required for endgame instances within a range of 10 to 15 ilvl from what the ilvls of the drops are.

Drops are ilvl 80 ? k, ilvl required should be 70.
ilvl 90 drops ? 80 or 75 required
ilvl 95 drops ? 80+.

Im done srry for derailling out of the subject. Dont flame pwease. :3

[Gamemako]

i admit the ilevel recquired in the DF is way too low for some defy or dungeon....

Before the ilvl req, I had a bunch of horribly undergeared DPS down the heart on Titan HM. They weren't good enough to avoid wiping on bombs or plumes, but we're talking ilvl50 average for all of them -- two DRGs, a BRD, and a BLM with ilvl55 weapons and ilvl50-60 armor with ilvl40-60 accessories. Competent players meeting the current ilvl requirement can clear it handily.

if they meet the high ilevel requirement they set, it's unlikely that they're being carried.

That's just it. They have this requirement because they're bad players and need to be carried.

[Doo]

They should remove the average item level.

It's sad so many people still thinks they can brute force their way though this game...

I think it's worst seeing many bad players who think they can go into tough fights with bad gear. I should know I dfed Titan hm for a month.

[Kikosho]

No. It's fine as is.

I've seen people use pvp, all class, etc accessories to meet the minimal lvl req for titan hm. At least in pf I can help alleviate SEs horribly low lvl req for that and other fights.

They aren't horribly low. All the fights can be done at the ilvl SE placed. It's not impossible but the difficulty is bumped to the point that leaves little leeway for messing up which is why players do it or ask for higher ilvls to overgear the instance. And I hope you realize people bump up their ilvl with accessories from other classes as well for the higher ilvl reqs that some PFs set, like using tank stuff on a caster.