Has SE Addressed Stat Allocation on ACN Yet?

[beforethechasm]

Go all VIT. You will notice that many people have melded Accessories to up their VIT for turn 5 on both SMN and SCH. If you just pump those 30points into VIT like I did you can forget about the melded accessories and actually use healer or DPS accessories. ^^ VIT all the way.

Rather than have vitality-melded accessories, what would you suggest if I were to go +30 vitality?

[OmegaNovaios]

Rather than have vitality-melded accessories, what would you suggest if I were to go +30 vitality?

Pets DO NOT benefit from Allocated Vitality, Party Bonus Vitality, Potion Vitality, NOR Food Vitality. The only Vitality Bonus that also benefits Pets is Gear Vitality.

[Maku]

Rather than have vitality-melded accessories, what would you suggest if I were to go +30 vitality?

Pets DO NOT benefit from Allocated Vitality, Party Bonus Vitality, Potion Vitality, NOR Food Vitality. The only Vitality Bonus that also benefits Pets is Gear Vitality.

This is true Omega but when has your Pets HP EVER been an issue? SE made them not take damage from even more AoEs this last patch and they already took hardly any damage from anything. Heck it is common practice to put pets behind Twintania to have a place to run to to disperse FireBall damage. PET HP should never be something that you worry about enough to take VIT on Gear over something else.

What to take instead of VIT acc? Anything that has to do with healer. For SCH full Myth Acc along with the Allagan Ring of Healing is BiS IF you do not need the VIT Acc for the HP which you wont if you put your points into VIT. Not sure for WHM.

For SMN, aside from Tremor Earring and Vortext Ring the rest is Myth Acc again for the current BiS.

[OmegaNovaios]

This is true Omega but when has your Pets HP EVER been an issue? SE made them not take damage from even more AoEs this last patch and they already took hardly any damage from anything. Heck it is common practice to put pets behind Twintania to have a place to run to to disperse FireBall damage. PET HP should never be something that you worry about enough to take VIT on Gear over something else.

What to take instead of VIT acc? Anything that has to do with healer. For SCH full Myth Acc along with the Allagan Ring of Healing is BiS IF you do not need the VIT Acc for the HP which you wont if you put your points into VIT. Not sure for WHM.

For SMN, aside from Tremor Earring and Vortext Ring the rest is Myth Acc again for the current BiS.

Pet's HP should never be an issue, the same as the player's HP should never be an issue. It is far easier to move your own character than to move your pet if either should be dodging attacks. Pet's are more likely to die than the character for this reason, but either way I don't recommend Allocating VIT neither for yourself nor your pet even if Allocated VIT did count for the pet unless you really wanted to have Titan-Egi tank. I wouldn't trade 30 INT/PIE for 30 VIT directly. The only time you MIGHT need more VIT for PVE is for Twintania's Fireball. If this is the case then it's fine to Allocate VIT UNTIL you pass the HP threshold you need in gear.

If you want more VIT then it's best to meld it to jewelry as opposed to using Allocated VIT since your pet benefits as well. Full i70 crafted can have 45 INT, 45 MND, 45 VIT and 30 PIE. This is a gain of 45 MND, 45 VIT, and 30 PIE at the loss of -20 INT over full i90. More VIT AND less of a loss in INT than Allocating 30 VIT instead of INT and/or PIE.

If your Allocating VIT I don't know what the point in going for BiS is when you care about HP so much yet pushing for DPS everywhere else. If you value HP the most then get HP in both Allocation and Gear. Doing only Allocation is the worst case scenario IMO.

If you you want BiS IMO full i70 crafted is better for SMN for the gains in PIE (able to sustain full DPS for longer and conserve more Aethers for bursting mechanics (which is going to secure more wins than +5% dps in unhindered environments)) and extra secondary stats which is better than 20 INT overall. A SMN will never have any issues in a non-hindered environment no matter whether he has BiS or not so it's best to gear for when it does. But if you want to stick to the non-crafted gear for BiS for your DPS then Allocating VIT seems silly since this will lower your DPS potential for PVE. For PVP then maybe Allocating VIT is good but again if you value HP then get it in every place you can.

[Maku]

If you want more VIT then it's best to meld it to jewelry as opposed to using Allocated VIT since your pet benefits as well. Full i70 crafted can have 45 INT, 45 MND, 45 VIT and 30 PIE at the loss of -20 INT over full i90. More VIT AND less of a loss in INT than Allocating 30 VIT instead of INT and/or PIE.

So once again why are you worrying about the VIT of your PET? -20INT but you also arnent factoring in the loss of crit. A Pets damage is by far more important than the Pets HP since the pet will not die from anthing other than full frontal attacks even in Turn5

[OmegaNovaios]

So once again why are you worrying about the VIT of your PET? -20INT but you also arnent factoring in the loss of crit. A Pets damage is by far more important than the Pets HP since the pet will not die from anthing other than full frontal attacks even in Turn5

Not that I really care about the pet's HP THAT much, but if the pet does die then technically that is a greater loss in pet's dmg than any stat loss AND the player's dmg by having to take the time and MP to resummon the pet.

Where is the loss in Crit? You can add all the Crit you want to i70 crafted up to 12 per slot, but INT is WAY better than Crit.

For example:
Astral Ring - INT 9, MND 9, Acc 9, Det 8
VIT IV +8
PIE IV +6
Crit III +6
Crit III +6
VIT I +1

Now INT 9, MND 9, VIT 9, PIE 6, Crit 12, Det 8, Acc 9

[Maku]

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Yes exactly, you get 12 crit. Myth ones give 16

One last thing. You seem to be forgetting that this whole thread is about the issue of having two jobs stem from ACN. Going full into VIT is the best option because of that.

If I use your numbers you just gave of a full IL70 than that was 45MND INT VIT and 30PIE

Full IL90 is (for SCH) 65MND 52 PIE 54CRIT (for SMN) 65INT 48CRIT and 43SS

Now the point allocation is an issue cause of how you need 10k seals to change it. By using all IL70 like you say and the putting all there points in INT if they are a SMN is absolutly going to give them more VIT(too much actually) and 10more INT. But wait, what if you want to play SCH for a bit? that 30 INT is totally wasted because you DPS in Cleric Stance.

If you play both classes (like I do) going VIT is the best choice for the 30 points. PIE means nothing to either job because our MP is crazy awesome and even if you are running our more than likely your WHM is as well (you will have a second healer in content that would even have a chance of running you dry) and the BRD will be singing by then.

For people who play both jobs VIT is the only way to go. 50/50 MND/INT is not gimping you but it is wasting 15 points while on the other job where as both jobs get the same HP bonus from the VIT.