SMN - Pet Questions

[Maku]

Most important thing is to get garuda out of the windburn aoe, that will kill her if you don't have sustain up constantly.

It isn't that Garuda is dying from damage or anything when you kill the Spiny Plume and get in to the Bubble it makes to save yourself. EVEN when my Garuda is at Max HP because I use Sustain a lot more than most people I think, the AoE from Garuda will one shot my Egi. Even when the Egi is in the bubble with Succor SHield and Sacred Soil around her she will get one shoted. My SMN is IL74ish so it isn't like I am under geared. No one else is having this problem? Again I am talking being one shoted by the AoE that you are hiding in the bubble for.

[xxalucard]

It isn't that Garuda is dying from damage or anything when you kill the Spiny Plume and get in to the Bubble it makes to save yourself. EVEN when my Garuda is at Max HP because I use Sustain a lot more than most people I think, the AoE from Garuda will one shot my Egi. Even when the Egi is in the bubble with Succor SHield and Sacred Soil around her she will get one shoted. My SMN is IL74ish so it isn't like I am under geared. No one else is having this problem? Again I am talking being one shoted by the AoE that you are hiding in the bubble for.

I assume your pet isn't making it into the bubble in time. If you could get a video of it happening it would be the easiest way to see what's going on.

[Kevee]

http://i.imgur.com/6QVPDZ7.png


http://i.imgur.com/gWBgdk1.jpg


Another Garuda, and there's my Sic Ifrit.



Edit: I was in a rush to leave this morning, but the only plausible thing I can think of for Seobit's different parses is a hidden passive on full AF+1, which wouldn't be unknown from SE.
I mean, I don't know why his Garuda is parsing so "low," either.
One thing may be Spell Speed. I go Int > Crit > Spell Speed > Det.
Seobit has 3 more Int, 2 more WD, 9 more DET, but 45 less Spell Speed(I want the neck off of T5, too..) and 12 less Crit in my parsing gear. My Garuda parses ~1 lower. That..Doesn't make sense, unless Spell Speed is just a vastly greater stat for Garuda than anything else.
While Spell Speed isn't great for the actual cast of Wind Blade, it's phenomenal for lowering the GCD/Recast of it. As we know Spell Speed has a higher effect for longer casts, and the recast is 3s, not 2.5s.
That combined with crit which means more uptime on our passive could be the difference.

Edit2: Then again, this doesn't completely justify T0rins results compared to yours. The only thing I can think of is his higher crit = more uptime on the passive = more Spell Speed.

[Vamp007]

ummm looks like you guys just pop garuda or ifrit and start fight ?

i just get it .......that's why you all say garuda ??? ummmm

cuz if you go and test your ifrit and garuda on dummy they both will go 21k in 5 min

so no one know how to make ifrit do more damage >.> ?
but if you know how to make ifrit do more damge lol he will go 9k up esay ?
i was think you all know ;/
and looks not ......and you all just attack me ; ;
ill keep it then to me

keep ifrit to me ^^ and you all stay withe garuda <--- i like her so much 2
but btw i am lvl ilvl76 and i win the total damage in 90% from all fight
and there is ilvl 83 there BLM MNK and SMN and cant win me.
guys the key is to know your job ......not to fight others.......and look at this guy up ^^ he say sic ifrit ok ok why you angry that much ^^!?
some ppl have ilvl 85 and do meeh damage cuz he don't know how to use his skills

anyway don't angry from me there ^^ i might be wrong...

maybe I am right

[Viridiana]

Look, Vamp, it's cool that you really like Ifrit, but until you show parses, we're not gonna just take your word for it.

[Vamp007]

Look, Vamp, it's cool that you really like Ifrit, but until you show parses, we're not gonna just take your word for it.

the problem .....is ...... i cant
you do.......use ifrit and garuda and find out
cuz if i do ........i can make titan fight like 10min the dummy .........and garuda or titan for for 7min and i say look guys titan more damage
i just say thing's
you have the ffxivapp use it and see
if you ar perfect SMN ^^ and know how to use your SMN ^^ you will know why ffxiv deva say ifrit = DD.... garuda DD+ support......and titan=tank
gahhhh why we go that far for something normal >.> ??
anyway GL guys and have a nice game ^^

[Kevee]

you do.......use ifrit and garuda and find out

We did.

cuz if i do ........i can make titan fight like 10min the dummy .........and garuda or titan for for 7min and i say look guys titan more damage

If you don't understand basic terminology(DPS vs. Damage, what a parser does), then please do not continue the discussion. There is virtually no difference, DPS-wise, from a 10 minute parse versus a 7 minute parse. At that point, you're just trying to normalize your crit rate with the law of large numbers. We are not talking about damage. We are talking about DPS. More DPS = More damage, sooner.

We are trying to find out why my(over multiple times), and t0rin's parsing results show different than Seobit's.

Unless you have input, a parse, or can say what you're doing differently--Please dip out of this thread so it doesn't get muddled up in this.

[Viridiana]

cuz if i do ........i can make titan fight like 10min the dummy .........and garuda or titan for for 7min and i say look guys titan more damage

We could easily tell if you were doing that. This is exactly why we look at the DPS number and the Total Damage number. This isn't hard to figure out. . .

[Karnage720]

The amount of bad summoners in this thread is "Too Damn High!" No wonder SMNs still get bad rep at times. Did someone really say use lolparser? Wow.....I thought this sorta thing was already done months ago.....Garuda>Ifrit...always in PVE, /thread

[T0rin]

Edit2: Then again, this doesn't completely justify T0rins results compared to yours. The only thing I can think of is his higher crit = more uptime on the passive = more Spell Speed.

I think that is a very likely explanation for what is going on. The spell speed buff that Garuda spits out is something like 80-90 spell speed. She crits more, buffs you more, lets her cast faster. In my mind, there are very few things that could explain how my Garuda does more than Seobit's Garuda with _11_ less int. That is a lot of int! And yet, my Garuda does more.