SMN - Pet Questions

[Seobit]

10 min parses.





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[T0rin]

10 min parses.





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???

Garuda on Sic?

[xxalucard]

10 min parses.





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Dude...

ifrit crit 18.06%
garuda crit 17.42%

get a parse where they crit the same and i bet garuda does the same if not more. and then you're not even counting contagion / range

and that's on a dummy that doesn't move


Ifrit sucks

[Seobit]

Nope, obey. Ifrit on sic.

Did another parse for ifrit still got 75 after 10 min. Only explanation I can come up with is he scales better with certain stats, but I dunno. Seems odd.

Contagion and range probably still make garuda more worthwhile though, but I find the result interesting.

[T0rin]

Nope, obey. Ifrit on sic.

Did another parse for ifrit still got 75 after 10 min. Only explanation I can come up with is he scales better with certain stats, but I dunno. Seems odd.

Contagion and range probably still make garuda more worthwhile though, but I find the result interesting.

What crit, det, spell spd, int, wpn dmg?

[Seobit]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1762385/

Put me on the same boat for pants (and boots).

[T0rin]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1762385/

Put me on the same boat for pants (and boots).

Compare to you, I have:

+37 crit
+15 det
-23 spell speed
-11 int

I can't logic out any reason why your Garuda would deal less damage, but mine deals more.

[Seobit]

Tried switching some det for spell speed (about 15 det for 30 or so spell speed) cause that's the one stat I had more than you but my ifrit's dps went down by 2 from it. Maybe ifrit benefits more from int?

[Kevee]

Tried switching some det for spell speed (about 15 det for 30 or so spell speed) cause that's the one stat I had more than you but my ifrit's dps went down by 2 from it. Maybe ifrit benefits more from int?

For one, Garuda is better suited for crits(slower bigger hits, more susceptible to RNG) and Ifrit is better suited for DET(DET has a big effect on auto attacks).

Second, yours was Obey vs Sic and his was Obey vs Obey.

But that still doesn't deter from the issue that Ifrit is useless for a multitude of reasons.
Ifrit is melee, Ifrit has to have DK, Ifrit can't reliably hit a moving target unless it has Heavy, Ifrit is worse for target switching, Ifrit has to be on Sic(burning an AoE+Stun which isn't always viable/wanted), and has no utility for synergy between BRD.



Edit: Also, two more things.
-MP constraints between switching pets
-Spell Speed, while worse for Ifrit(useless, even)--Ifrit still doubles the uptime on our passive, making it a 5-6% overall increase in SS, rather than 2-3%. So the change from SS to DET, and your "loss" of 2 DPS isn't exactly that.

[Seobit]

He has both obey and sic numbers for ifrit (68 for obey, 70 for sic). And your numbers have sic ifrit losing to obey garuda too, or I think that's what you used anyway. I'm not arguing that ifrit is better than garuda, I'm just pointing out an oddity and trying to understand why this is happening because I think it can be relevent in understanding how things work, mainly the relation between our stats and our pets and how it affects them.