CT Noobs

[Marxam]

@OP; sounds like someone failed to explain to the new people how the boos fights work in a concise and oriented manner. Maybe if you communicated to the alliance you wouldn't be failing so bad? Btw I think you are confusing Noob with Newb.

[AideLee]

I guess I was wrong about relic being requirement. But rather I value the experience of going through the relic quests. You know what? no matter how geared you are... people just don't listen. Bottom line, alliance activity in ffxiv is just bad bad idea... Out of 24 ppl, you are bound to get couple of idiots that just won't listen. If you listen to what other experienced people say, it will be smooth run. I have had multiple case of kicking these people and having rest of the CT run go smooth.

Bottom line, if you don't know CT, at least learn to listen and follow orders. Is that being elitist?

[Black_Rose2012]

I guess I was wrong about relic being requirement. But rather I value the experience of going through the relic quests. You know what? no matter how geared you are... people just don't listen. Bottom line, alliance activity in ffxiv is just bad bad idea... Out of 24 ppl, you are bound to get couple of idiots that just won't listen. If you listen to what other experienced people say, it will be smooth run. I have had multiple case of kicking these people and having rest of the CT run go smooth.

Bottom line, if you don't know CT, at least learn to listen and follow orders. Is that being elitist?

The reason they are calling you that is because you said that people with low gear are noobs and are idiots. Now if you are talking about any person who doesn't listen or care about the other groups in CT, then I agree with you that they are idiots, but don't say people who are new to 50 are noobs and idiots. I just barely got to 50 and did CT with a friend, worst exp in my life. My group and B did good, but C... they just aggroed before we even got to the barrier and lots of us were locked out of the battle, so really, was it my fault for being undergeared that C were idiots? No, it was them and their lack of communication.

You and the others should know that each of us just started at the same time 4 months ago, so we are all new to the game and content, so don't think just because you got to 50 before me makes you better, no, it just means you had more time in your hands to play to that point.

Also IIRC each dungeon, raid and trial say a level on the side, what does it say? 50, right? Does it say a ilevel? no LEVEL, which means we all have every right to be in that dungeon, trial or raid as much as you do, whether or not we have the right ilevel gear. We all want to have a chance in the dungeons, so let us.

[PArcher]

Also IIRC each dungeon, raid and trial say a level on the side, what does it say? 50, right? Does it say a ilevel? no LEVEL, which means we all have every right to be in that dungeon, trial or raid as much as you do, whether or not we have the right ilevel gear. We all want to have a chance in the dungeons, so let us.

Actually, most lv50 dungeons/trials have an ilv requirement to use the DF (think the only one you have to meet it to join in a pre-made is CT, but I'm not sure about that). Sirius/CopperHM/HaukkeHM are i48, Ifrit HM is i49, CT is i50, Garuda HM is i52, Mog is i54, Titan HM is i57, Ultima is i61, Garuda EX is i65, Titan EX is i67, and Ifrit EX is i70.

Yes, after you get in you can change gear, but you need to meet these (for the most part, low) requirements to get in.

[Laraul]

I guess I was wrong about relic being requirement. But rather I value the experience of going through the relic quests. You know what? no matter how geared you are... people just don't listen. Bottom line, alliance activity in ffxiv is just bad bad idea... Out of 24 ppl, you are bound to get couple of idiots that just won't listen. If you listen to what other experienced people say, it will be smooth run. I have had multiple case of kicking these people and having rest of the CT run go smooth.

Bottom line, if you don't know CT, at least learn to listen and follow orders. Is that being elitist?

The way people learn is thru practice and trial and error. And the first thing everyone does upon entering is rush in. People don't stop and explain what to do. You have to figure things as you go along. Here is my first run. Notice how I'm struggling with the HUD so much that I end up just standing in the poison that rises during the first trash run. I was so overwhelmed by everything else that was going and where my party was and what they we're doing that I just stood there and let it kill me. I had *no* idea at the time that I was standing in the purple ooze at all. When I died I thought something must have just struct me or something. It wasn't until I reviewed this video that I had done so dumb. It's so obvious to see in the video that I need to move. I look at it and can't believe that I didn't spot it and move. Perhaps if I could have adjusted the UI outside CT it never would have happened.

That was the biggest and most major mistake I made the entire run. But it shows how easy it is for anyone to do something that appears so profoundly stupid. But it's not a reason to kick. You *only* kick those who are deliberately causing trouble repeatedly. The fact you haven't realized that everyone is capable of mistakes shows your own lack of experience with working in large groups. Cuz you've made plenty, many you never realized.

[Chiramu]

I don't think the gear matters so much for CT as long as you do your best. What I don't like are people who don't even try, people who spiritbond in dungeon; basically sponges. An undergeared person can do well as long as they try their hardest, an overgeared person can do incredibly poorly because they are overconfident and they are interested in making gil by spiritbonding bad gear while their team mates do all the hard work.

Gear really has nothing to do with it, bad players are bad players.

[jomoru]

I don't think the gear matters so much for CT as long as you do your best. What I don't like are people who don't even try, people who spiritbond in dungeon; basically sponges. An undergeared person can do well as long as they try their hardest, an overgeared person can do incredibly poorly because they are overconfident and they are interested in making gil by spiritbonding bad gear while their team mates do all the hard work.

Gear really has nothing to do with it, bad players are bad players.

I don't see how spirit bonders are sponges, I mean if you go in there in Militia equipment for your job that's going to work for them. Conversely I've seen fully Allaganed out types who just sit at the door and expect others to do their work. Kept getting vote kicked but hey she's a tank so if she cues for one in progress guess where she end sup?

[Mags]

Does CT require full DL? Heck no. But DL gear is so insanely easy to obtain, why would you be without it in the first place? I got full DL in a about two weeks with just doing the roulette runs and a few WP runs when I could. I play about 3 hours a night on average.

But the OP calling people names in inexcusable in my opinion. It is not needed. Express your opinion that you think everyone should have full DL and relic +1, but its quite obvious the game does not require that gear to run CT.

[Mayin]

I don't see the problem with this OP. Obviously ppl are going to want the best gear possible to beat Titan HM with.

[Makior72]

Its a shame that when I see a post like this, the player is almost always from Hyperion.

On topic, maybe communicate a little more? Not everyone watches video guides on this stuff nor should they be required to.